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<p>[QUOTE="Collect89, post: 698746, member: 15445"]<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">This post provides basic information about the Proof 1961 Franklin Half Dollar with Doubled Die Reverse. Check your proof sets and keep an eye out for this one. It is a king of doubled dies. If you know any other good sources of information describing this coin, please let me know. I look forward to learning more from all you CT folks. </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">[</font></font><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">IMG]<a href="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg</a></font><a href="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a></font><a href="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">[/IMG]</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">This Proof 1961 Franklin Half Dollar is commonly known from Cherrypickers as Fivas-Stanton FS # 50¢-<b>013</b>. With the new numbering system in Cherrypickers, it is apparently FS-50-1961-<b>801</b>. NGC lists it as 1961 PF 50¢ <b>VP-001</b>. </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><img src="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64ReverseCU.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p> </p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">In the realm of doubled die enthusiasts, this coin was routinely classified as (3-R-V). Alan Herbert taught that (3-R-V) means that it is the <u>3rd</u> doubled die discovered on the 1961 Franklin coin with doubling on the <u>R</u>everse and the doubling is type <u>V</u> (Roman numeral 5). Type V doubling is “pivoted hub doubling”. This means that the die was first hubbed normally & then for the second impression, the hub was turned on a pivot point. The pivot point is near the rim and away from the axis of either the die or the hub so that two overlapping, raised, and rounded designs result. The doubling spreads out in a fan shape from the pivot point. The strongest doubling is most evident at the rim directly opposite of the pivot point. The doubling on this coin is very strong at E PLURIBUS UNIM which is located at about 8:30 on the reverse. There is virtually no doubling on the word AMERICA which is located at about 2:30 on the reverse. Therefore, this point at 2:30 is where the 2nd hubbing must have pivoted. </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><img src="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64PivotPoint.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p> </p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">CONECA refers to this coin under Franklin Halves as 1961 DDR-003 and lists designations: PR-3-R-I-CCW, FS-50-1961-801, and FS 013. The CONECA website also informs us that it was originally reported by “unknown” person(s). I first heard about the 1961 DDR from Bill Afinito at A&N Enterprises around 1990. (I remember this date because my son had been born but he was not yet walking the bourse floor </font><font face="Wingdings"><font face="Wingdings">J</font></font><font face="Times New Roman">). I had wanted the DDR since Bill Afinito told me about the coin. It was at that point that I tried to look it up in Breen’s Encyclopedia. The Proof 1961 Franklin Half Dollar with Doubled Die Reverse is not listed in Breen’s Encyclopedia. My Breen book has a date of 1987 and copyright date of 1988. </font></font></p><p> </p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Of course, the 1961 DDR is listed in the Red Book today. The Red Book depicts the variety & it is the only variety listing in the Red Book for the Franklin series. I believe that the first time this variety was published in the Red Book was around 1991. (It is listed in my 1991 Red Book but I cannot locate my 1990 Red Book to verify if it was listed there). IF YOU HAVE A 1990 OR 1989 RED BOOK, PLEASE CHECK FOR THE LISTING & LET ME KNOW. Once the coin began being listed in the Red Book, the popularity of the coin took-off. It was about three years later when I finally found & purchased my first Proof 1961 DDR from J.T. Stanton. That was 15 years ago. JT wrote to me stating that he thought it was a good coin because it is (1) a large coin, (2) a proof coin, and (3) a strong doubled die. </font></font></p><p> </p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">My original Cherrypickers Guide lists the variety as “An outstanding, impressive strong doubled die, and on a large proof coin” Oh yeah, JT was one of the authors</font><font face="Wingdings"><font face="Wingdings">J</font></font><font face="Times New Roman">. My third edition of the Cherrypickers states that virtually no new specimens have been reported since February 1990. I have heard reports from a couple dealers whom have had a couple flat packs offered to them in the last several years. My latest edition of the Cherrypickers simply states “This is by far the strongest doubled die in the series, and is easily sold!”.</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">The last time I viewed NGC’s population report, there were 59 specimens reported in all grades. The new ANACS Website lists their pop at 18 specimens. My membership at PCGS needs to be renewed so I cannot tell you what the PCGS pop is today. (Unless I pay them $4.95 for 1-months access). IF YOU HAVE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO THE PCGS POP REPORT PLEASE LET US KNOW THE CURRENT POP DATA FOR THIS COIN.</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Heritage sold one example in 2009 and I count only nine examples which they have sold since 2006. During this time, there were a total of three examples sold on Teletrade & DLRC. Of course, there may have been others sold by HLRC, Goldberg and even Ebay. All-in-all, there are not too many offered for sale each year.</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">My new purchase this week is a Proof 1961 Franklin DDR graded PF64 by NGC. The coin looks PF63 to me but who am I to argue with the slab. There are a couple marks on the obverse but the reverse is the key side for this coin. I plan to have it re-slabbed by NGC with the reverse facing forward. They have done this before with my NGC PF65 and NGC PF66 examples</font><font face="Wingdings"><font face="Wingdings">J</font></font><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">I hope that you liked this information & photos. Thanks for letting me share.</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Very best regards,</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Collect89</font></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">P.S. The 1961 DDR listed in the Red Book under Franklin Half Dollars much like the 1955/55 is listed under Lincoln Cents. Is a Franklin Half Dollar set (including proofs) considered complete without the 1961 DDR 003? Whadayathink?</font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Collect89, post: 698746, member: 15445"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]This post provides basic information about the Proof 1961 Franklin Half Dollar with Doubled Die Reverse. Check your proof sets and keep an eye out for this one. It is a king of doubled dies. If you know any other good sources of information describing this coin, please let me know. I look forward to learning more from all you CT folks. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]IMG][URL="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg"]http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg[/URL][/SIZE][URL="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg"][/url][/FONT][URL="http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64Reverse.jpg"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]This Proof 1961 Franklin Half Dollar is commonly known from Cherrypickers as Fivas-Stanton FS # 50¢-[B]013[/B]. With the new numbering system in Cherrypickers, it is apparently FS-50-1961-[B]801[/B]. NGC lists it as 1961 PF 50¢ [B]VP-001[/B]. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][IMG]http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64ReverseCU.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]In the realm of doubled die enthusiasts, this coin was routinely classified as (3-R-V). Alan Herbert taught that (3-R-V) means that it is the [U]3rd[/U] doubled die discovered on the 1961 Franklin coin with doubling on the [U]R[/U]everse and the doubling is type [U]V[/U] (Roman numeral 5). Type V doubling is “pivoted hub doubling”. This means that the die was first hubbed normally & then for the second impression, the hub was turned on a pivot point. The pivot point is near the rim and away from the axis of either the die or the hub so that two overlapping, raised, and rounded designs result. The doubling spreads out in a fan shape from the pivot point. The strongest doubling is most evident at the rim directly opposite of the pivot point. The doubling on this coin is very strong at E PLURIBUS UNIM which is located at about 8:30 on the reverse. There is virtually no doubling on the word AMERICA which is located at about 2:30 on the reverse. Therefore, this point at 2:30 is where the 2nd hubbing must have pivoted. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][IMG]http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/collect89/Franklin1961DDRNGC64PivotPoint.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]CONECA refers to this coin under Franklin Halves as 1961 DDR-003 and lists designations: PR-3-R-I-CCW, FS-50-1961-801, and FS 013. The CONECA website also informs us that it was originally reported by “unknown” person(s). I first heard about the 1961 DDR from Bill Afinito at A&N Enterprises around 1990. (I remember this date because my son had been born but he was not yet walking the bourse floor [/FONT][FONT=Wingdings][FONT=Wingdings]J[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]). I had wanted the DDR since Bill Afinito told me about the coin. It was at that point that I tried to look it up in Breen’s Encyclopedia. The Proof 1961 Franklin Half Dollar with Doubled Die Reverse is not listed in Breen’s Encyclopedia. My Breen book has a date of 1987 and copyright date of 1988. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Of course, the 1961 DDR is listed in the Red Book today. The Red Book depicts the variety & it is the only variety listing in the Red Book for the Franklin series. I believe that the first time this variety was published in the Red Book was around 1991. (It is listed in my 1991 Red Book but I cannot locate my 1990 Red Book to verify if it was listed there). IF YOU HAVE A 1990 OR 1989 RED BOOK, PLEASE CHECK FOR THE LISTING & LET ME KNOW. Once the coin began being listed in the Red Book, the popularity of the coin took-off. It was about three years later when I finally found & purchased my first Proof 1961 DDR from J.T. Stanton. That was 15 years ago. JT wrote to me stating that he thought it was a good coin because it is (1) a large coin, (2) a proof coin, and (3) a strong doubled die. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]My original Cherrypickers Guide lists the variety as “An outstanding, impressive strong doubled die, and on a large proof coin” Oh yeah, JT was one of the authors[/FONT][FONT=Wingdings][FONT=Wingdings]J[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]. My third edition of the Cherrypickers states that virtually no new specimens have been reported since February 1990. I have heard reports from a couple dealers whom have had a couple flat packs offered to them in the last several years. My latest edition of the Cherrypickers simply states “This is by far the strongest doubled die in the series, and is easily sold!”.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The last time I viewed NGC’s population report, there were 59 specimens reported in all grades. The new ANACS Website lists their pop at 18 specimens. My membership at PCGS needs to be renewed so I cannot tell you what the PCGS pop is today. (Unless I pay them $4.95 for 1-months access). IF YOU HAVE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO THE PCGS POP REPORT PLEASE LET US KNOW THE CURRENT POP DATA FOR THIS COIN.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Heritage sold one example in 2009 and I count only nine examples which they have sold since 2006. During this time, there were a total of three examples sold on Teletrade & DLRC. Of course, there may have been others sold by HLRC, Goldberg and even Ebay. All-in-all, there are not too many offered for sale each year.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]My new purchase this week is a Proof 1961 Franklin DDR graded PF64 by NGC. The coin looks PF63 to me but who am I to argue with the slab. There are a couple marks on the obverse but the reverse is the key side for this coin. I plan to have it re-slabbed by NGC with the reverse facing forward. They have done this before with my NGC PF65 and NGC PF66 examples[/FONT][FONT=Wingdings][FONT=Wingdings]J[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I hope that you liked this information & photos. Thanks for letting me share.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Very best regards,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Collect89[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]P.S. The 1961 DDR listed in the Red Book under Franklin Half Dollars much like the 1955/55 is listed under Lincoln Cents. Is a Franklin Half Dollar set (including proofs) considered complete without the 1961 DDR 003? Whadayathink?[/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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