Data 1916-D Test your authentication powers

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Collect89, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. buzzard

    buzzard Active Member

    The 1916 d dime is scheduled for grading and NGC website is showing a 12 day turn around so I will keep you posted.:rolleyes:
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Maybe I'm blind, but I'd have to say that yours resembles #2 the most.

    I've ruled out #1 because it's mintmark is higher than yours.

    I've ruled out #3 because it's mintmark is further from the leaf than yours. Also note the bottom leg of the "E". Yours appears rather "boxy" where on #3 it has a slight upslope at the end.

    I've ruled out #4 because the mintmark is lower and further from the leaf than yours.

    That leaves #2. While it's difficult to ascertain whether yours is an RPM or not because of the condition, the position of the mintmark is about the same, and the shape of the "E" is the same.

    I may be completely wrong, but that's the way I see it.

    Chris
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    You have a good eye. I agree it is #2.
     
  5. cpm9ball

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    In that case, I think I'll cancel my appointment with the eye doctor.

    Chris
     
  6. EarlyUS

    EarlyUS Junior Member

    Your coin looks genuine to me. The quickest way to "guess" is to look at the interior of the "D" mintmark - it should be roughly triangular on a genuine coin.
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I was wondering if anyone was going to mentio the triangular center of the D. (This is also good for authenticating 14-D cents.)
     
  8. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I wish we could post this information about the trianular center of the D at the first page of this thread.
     
  9. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    It looks like #2 to me. The 'cat's eye ' center to the mintmark looks right too. also, each mintmark position has a corresponding die rotation.
     
  10. buzzard

    buzzard Active Member

    Have not forgot about you. The coin is in Quality control @ ngc and should know the grade shortly when they ship it.
     
  11. buzzard

    buzzard Active Member

    The grade came back VG Improperly cleaned, I guess someone tried to clean it I'm no expert on that
     
  12. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot

    the doubling on the mint mark says #2 to me
     
  13. Zirbg

    Zirbg Member

    Fake D

    Thanks for posting on my thread "1916 (fake D?) Mercury Dime" Collect89, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I'll attach a picture of my fake 1916 D for everyone's reference.


    mercury dime3.jpg mercury dime1.jpg mercury dime2.jpg
     
  14. Boxeldercoin

    Boxeldercoin New Member

    Hi, Your posting is GREAT. Your post is why I joined this forum, very informative and well done. Thank you very much. Jim
     
  15. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector



    Thank you very much for your complement. :)
     
  16. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    @Collect89 , that image of Die 4 shows a raised mark in the field just under the stem where the branch begins. It is kind of shaped like the top portion of the curve in the D. Is that a diagnostic for Die 4? It can't be a bad thing to revive this thread ;)
     
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  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I don't know. You would think that a raised mark in that protected area would be preserved on low grade coins. However, I've not inspected a bunch of low grade #4 mintmarks to be able to answer your question. Perhaps someone at CT could post their 1916-D with the #4 mm.
     
  18. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Here is mine, that exhibits that mark. I believe it is a die 4. The MM appears to have taken a slight ding at the bottom serif and top right where the curve is. I'm showing it straight on, as well as tilted to differing degrees to show that metal was displaced. What do you think?
     

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  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot

    the 4th and 5th photographs show it best. The serifs are pointy, not boxed and square like they should be. The mint mark is not correct, so I again say fake.

    Is yours authenticated, silent?
     
  20. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Not yet. This is why I asked if that raised mark in the field where the branch begins from the stem is a diagnostic for die 4. It is obvious that the reverse has some bag marks, but personally I don't believe they rule anything out. Maybe it's just me, but only the mm on die 1 looks boxed and square.... 2&3 are pointy and doubled.... Die 4 mm looks like pointy serifs albeit with a shadow to the north in the photo of die 4 @Collect89 provided in the OP
     
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  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot

    The Mint mark punch used on all 246,000 16-D Mercury Dimes is the exact same punch used on the 1914-D Lincoln Cent. Boxy and squared with boxy serifs. I know of no genuine 16-D Mercury dime with pointed serifs.
     
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