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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 2902845, member: 24314"]GDJMSP, posted:  "I won't claim that it can be done with electrolysis but it can absolutely sometimes be done by dipping a coin." Allow me to use a "slick" political tactic..." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  It all depends on what "BLACK" is. GDJMSP continued:  "And I never claimed that black toning is always going to result in permanent damage,..."  Of course you didn't, Insider did. "...quite the contrary in fact. As I said we can never know if irreparable damage has been done until the black toning is removed, and sometimes there is damage and sometimes there isn't." "...I myself have dipped several black coins to reveal gorgeous luster underneath. And similar experiences are often related by many others within the hobby." I cannot argue with experience, you and those others are either very lucky, the oxidation was not actually "terminal," or you did not look at the finished product as closely as I do. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> As I posted above: It all depends on what "BLACK" is.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]