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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1106763, member: 26302"]?</p><p><br /></p><p>Daniel Carr is SIMPLY altering the coins? This makes it ok? To change dates and add mintmarks on coins are ok, but striking completely new ones is what you think the HPA protects us from? Again, is it ok for me to add an S to a 1870 quarter? You would be ok with that Mike? </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding the presumption that the US Secret Service is "clearly aware" of what Daniel Carr is doing and the fact that he has not been stopped proves nothing. What about the importers of Chinese fakes coming in by the boatload? Since they haven't been stopped, does your logic hold that they clearly are legal as well? I don't see how DC being public about what he is doing makes it legal. If he wrote to the Counsel of the Secret Service and asked them for a formal ruling on his procedures and received a written response that it was, then I would buy this argument. Short of this, absence of action does not prove anything.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to the morality and health of this hobby aspect of altering coins to change its date to a date THAT WAS STRUCK LEGALLY BY THE US MINT, well I think everyone knows my position there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Btw Mike, I know you are a great guy, do great things for this hobby, are a great contributor here and a font of rational thought. I know we disagree on this issue, and I hope you don't take it personally. My only concern is what is best long term for this hobby, I am not trying to wage an internet flamefest or anything stupid like that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1106763, member: 26302"]? Daniel Carr is SIMPLY altering the coins? This makes it ok? To change dates and add mintmarks on coins are ok, but striking completely new ones is what you think the HPA protects us from? Again, is it ok for me to add an S to a 1870 quarter? You would be ok with that Mike? Regarding the presumption that the US Secret Service is "clearly aware" of what Daniel Carr is doing and the fact that he has not been stopped proves nothing. What about the importers of Chinese fakes coming in by the boatload? Since they haven't been stopped, does your logic hold that they clearly are legal as well? I don't see how DC being public about what he is doing makes it legal. If he wrote to the Counsel of the Secret Service and asked them for a formal ruling on his procedures and received a written response that it was, then I would buy this argument. Short of this, absence of action does not prove anything. As to the morality and health of this hobby aspect of altering coins to change its date to a date THAT WAS STRUCK LEGALLY BY THE US MINT, well I think everyone knows my position there. Chris Edit: Btw Mike, I know you are a great guy, do great things for this hobby, are a great contributor here and a font of rational thought. I know we disagree on this issue, and I hope you don't take it personally. My only concern is what is best long term for this hobby, I am not trying to wage an internet flamefest or anything stupid like that.[/QUOTE]
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