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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1105307, member: 26302"]You are approaching this from a standpoint of a dealer, of course you will be able to tell the difference. I am saying how much confusion and anger could this cause in 30 years when a family member finds it going through things. You state that this is not a imitation numismatic item, well then what is it? Why stamp it 1964 when coins WERE made with that date? Why not 1952, or 1973? It is simply BECAUSE it is an imitation numismatic item that anyone wants one, therefor to me falls under the Hobby Protection Act. To say that 1964 doesn't mean anything, or is not imitating a real coin that was in existence, is simply not true.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lets get back to an earlier point, if Mr Carr struck a 1873s half dime 40 years ago before the authentic one was found, would that be ok? Can he strike a quarter now? If he does, what happens if a real 1873s quarter shows up? What happens today if real 1964 silver dolalrs show up and the government allows their sale? There are no absolutes as to what will happen, that is why the 1964 silver dollar to me is especially galling not being labelled COPY. Is it ok if Mr. Carr simply adds a mintmark to a coin, so we could have lovelies like a 1907s IHC, 1911d Nickel, 1862c half eagle, and all sorts of other things to collect? Where is the line of numismatic acceptable forgery?</p><p><br /></p><p>He can make these all he wants, I just wish for the good of the hobby long term, he would simply stamp them COPY. I don't think its that much to ask.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding Desertgems question, it is a good one. A non response from a government agency is not tacit permission, I am a CPA and know this very well from tax law cases. Non response from an agency is explicitly NO advice, and you cannot use a non response as a defense. This has been litigated and affirmed for more than 50 years.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1105307, member: 26302"]You are approaching this from a standpoint of a dealer, of course you will be able to tell the difference. I am saying how much confusion and anger could this cause in 30 years when a family member finds it going through things. You state that this is not a imitation numismatic item, well then what is it? Why stamp it 1964 when coins WERE made with that date? Why not 1952, or 1973? It is simply BECAUSE it is an imitation numismatic item that anyone wants one, therefor to me falls under the Hobby Protection Act. To say that 1964 doesn't mean anything, or is not imitating a real coin that was in existence, is simply not true. Lets get back to an earlier point, if Mr Carr struck a 1873s half dime 40 years ago before the authentic one was found, would that be ok? Can he strike a quarter now? If he does, what happens if a real 1873s quarter shows up? What happens today if real 1964 silver dolalrs show up and the government allows their sale? There are no absolutes as to what will happen, that is why the 1964 silver dollar to me is especially galling not being labelled COPY. Is it ok if Mr. Carr simply adds a mintmark to a coin, so we could have lovelies like a 1907s IHC, 1911d Nickel, 1862c half eagle, and all sorts of other things to collect? Where is the line of numismatic acceptable forgery? He can make these all he wants, I just wish for the good of the hobby long term, he would simply stamp them COPY. I don't think its that much to ask. Regarding Desertgems question, it is a good one. A non response from a government agency is not tacit permission, I am a CPA and know this very well from tax law cases. Non response from an agency is explicitly NO advice, and you cannot use a non response as a defense. This has been litigated and affirmed for more than 50 years.[/QUOTE]
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