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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1104694, member: 26302"]I am sorry if this upsets me, but I have delat with things like this in the hobby a long time. Let me ask a couple of questions to Mr. Carr supporters:</p><p><br /></p><p>You say that since the mint never struck a PROOF coin of that year, its ok for DC to strike one. How did he produce it, altering a real coin or striking from scratch? If overstruck, are you saying any unknown coins to numismatists can be overstruck as long as the overstruck date doesn't exist and are overstruck on real coins? If from scratch, how is this not forging legal US currency?</p><p><br /></p><p>If its the former, as I believe I have read here it is, is everyone ok with piles of US coins being overstruck with fantasy dates on them? What about the overstrike, does it "improve" the grade of the underlying coin? Is it ok for me to make a business strike 1895 from a 1881 morgan? If it is, how good can I make it, can it be undetectable?</p><p><br /></p><p>I just have a real, real problem with people in the US striking forgeries without the word COPY on them when we are begging our Congressmen to stop the flood of Chinese counterfeits to try to save this hobby. I don't think people appreciate how much the Hobby Protection Law has benefitted this hobby, and how much of a financial hit everyone will take when people stop collecting coins because of all of the unmarked fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is why I hate these items so much. If our hobby embraces them, then we deserved to be wiped out with Chinese fakes. Its our fault then, since we ignored our own laws trying to help us. ALL fakes have to be marked with the word COPY stamped in them, or I don't blame the Chinese as labelling all of us hypocrites.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1104694, member: 26302"]I am sorry if this upsets me, but I have delat with things like this in the hobby a long time. Let me ask a couple of questions to Mr. Carr supporters: You say that since the mint never struck a PROOF coin of that year, its ok for DC to strike one. How did he produce it, altering a real coin or striking from scratch? If overstruck, are you saying any unknown coins to numismatists can be overstruck as long as the overstruck date doesn't exist and are overstruck on real coins? If from scratch, how is this not forging legal US currency? If its the former, as I believe I have read here it is, is everyone ok with piles of US coins being overstruck with fantasy dates on them? What about the overstrike, does it "improve" the grade of the underlying coin? Is it ok for me to make a business strike 1895 from a 1881 morgan? If it is, how good can I make it, can it be undetectable? I just have a real, real problem with people in the US striking forgeries without the word COPY on them when we are begging our Congressmen to stop the flood of Chinese counterfeits to try to save this hobby. I don't think people appreciate how much the Hobby Protection Law has benefitted this hobby, and how much of a financial hit everyone will take when people stop collecting coins because of all of the unmarked fakes. This is why I hate these items so much. If our hobby embraces them, then we deserved to be wiped out with Chinese fakes. Its our fault then, since we ignored our own laws trying to help us. ALL fakes have to be marked with the word COPY stamped in them, or I don't blame the Chinese as labelling all of us hypocrites.[/QUOTE]
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