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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1418832, member: 112&quot;]Yes and no. I agree with yes because I have never heard of anybody else actually doing what you are doing. But I also agree with no, because in your own words you state that you are altering the original coins. And altering original coins is definitely not something new. And there are laws against altering original coins when such alteration is done with intent to deceive or defraud.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I don&#039;t claim you are breaking any laws Daniel, never have. You are not trying to deceive anyone. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s all well and good, I have no argument with any of it. I readily agree that you are not breaking any laws. But that is NOT what you and I have been discussing.</p><p><br /></p><p>The one and ONLY point that you and I disagree on is whether or not the pieces that you produce <u>are</u> legal tender or if they are <u>not</u> legal tender.</p><p><br /></p><p>All through this conversation I have said that they are most definitely not legal tender. You are argue that point, claiming that the pieces you produce &quot;might&quot; be legal tender. I grant you, you do not claim that they definitely are legal tender, you just claim that they might be. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is a very specific question, we do not disagree on anything else. But I believe that it is also a question that you have not even asked.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No you haven&#039;t been there and done that. Send one of your coins to the US MINT and ask them point blank IF it is legal tender or not ? It&#039;s very simple. There is no question of whether or not you are breaking any laws. You would not be asking them to interpret any law. You would not be asking them if what you are doing is legal or not. You would be asking a very straight forward question of IF your pieces are legal tender or not. I believe they will answer that question.</p><p><br /></p><p>But you can prove me wrong quite easily - send them one and ask.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, now you are helping me make my point. For there is a law that says that only genuine US coins and notes are legal tender. And since the pieces you produce are not genuine US coins, then they cannot be legal tender. So there is an indirect, but still valid, enforceable law that says your pieces are not legal tender.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is no might or could be to it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And you&#039;re really gonna claim that because you can see the shadow of the old date that that makes your piece identifiable as a genuine 1922 Peace ? I mean really ? </p><p><br /></p><p>C&#039;mon Daniel, that&#039;s really reaching. That shadow of the date could just as easily have come from a Chinese counterfeit, or any other counterfeit, or any other dollar sized coin dated 22 for that matter. </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m sorry, but that does not make your pieces readily identifiable as having previously been genuine US coins. Or previous anything else. For all anybody would know it could just as easily have been a piece previously made by you, that didn&#039;t turn out, so you over-struck it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, it is evidence of what people think. But the problem is the question that was asked. The question was - are your pieces fantasy pieces, counterfeits, or not sure ? And yes people responded to THAT question.</p><p><br /></p><p>The question that you and I are discussing are whether or not your pieces are legal tender. And that is an entirely different question than the one that people responded to. Pretty hard to argue differently on that point.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>No, I didn&#039;t claim to &quot;know&quot; what people think. I said &quot;I think&quot; that most people would agree with me that your pieces are not legal tender. That means there is some question involved. That I might be right or I might be wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why don&#039;t you ask the question and find out ? Right after you send one of your pieces to the US Mint and ask them IF it is legal tender.</p><p>&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have no evidence, I was merely stating my opinion on 1 specific point. But I can tell you why I think that. I think that because I believe that people have enough common sense to recognize that your pieces simply cannot be legal tender because they are not genuine US coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ll let my previous comment stand.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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