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<p>[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1417443, member: 4781"]"1903" Morgan Dollars exist. I'm only over-striking with dates that <i>don't</i> exist. And I'm only over-striking on genuine coins of the same type. A "1903-CC" Morgan Dollar could potentially be considered either a "fake" or a "fantasy" - it depends on the context, the intent, how it was made, and what it was struck on. A Morgan dollar with a date that was never originally minted (like my "1909" over-strikes) is <i>obviously</i> not entirely a US Mint product, and if presented appropriately as such, it is a "fantasy" coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, if they were made and presented with intent to deceive, then they are fakes. And they are not struck over existing genuine coins - so their legal tender status is <i>counterfeit currency</i>. And genuine Bust Half Dollars 1830-1833 already exist. I'm not over-striking coins with dates that already exist, according to the government. And all my over-strikes are on legal-tender coins (I'm not claiming legal tender status after the over-strike, however).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That guy sounds like a patholigical liar, or was "pulling your leg". He can not have had one of my over-strikes since the 1960s. A person intent on lying can always find some coin to lie about, one way or the other.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Chinese are striking on anonymous blanks of metal. That makes them <i>counterfeit currency</i>. I'm striking on genuine coins of the same type. That makes mine <i>altered</i> coins, not counterfeit currency. The only thing that really matters about the press is the tonnage it can stamp with. However, using a surplus Denver Mint coin press for over-striking adds a certain "cachet" to the product, as does the fact that the over-strikes are done by a known person who designed coins for the US Mint.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I have heard many stories of people thinking they have "hit the lottery" with their coins, only find out they didn't even get a free lunch. But these people rarely have invested a lot of their own money in the coins - they generally don't know anything about coins and got them from a relative or from a TV commercial for $19.95 .[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1417443, member: 4781"]"1903" Morgan Dollars exist. I'm only over-striking with dates that [i]don't[/i] exist. And I'm only over-striking on genuine coins of the same type. A "1903-CC" Morgan Dollar could potentially be considered either a "fake" or a "fantasy" - it depends on the context, the intent, how it was made, and what it was struck on. A Morgan dollar with a date that was never originally minted (like my "1909" over-strikes) is [i]obviously[/i] not entirely a US Mint product, and if presented appropriately as such, it is a "fantasy" coin. No, if they were made and presented with intent to deceive, then they are fakes. And they are not struck over existing genuine coins - so their legal tender status is [i]counterfeit currency[/i]. And genuine Bust Half Dollars 1830-1833 already exist. I'm not over-striking coins with dates that already exist, according to the government. And all my over-strikes are on legal-tender coins (I'm not claiming legal tender status after the over-strike, however). That guy sounds like a patholigical liar, or was "pulling your leg". He can not have had one of my over-strikes since the 1960s. A person intent on lying can always find some coin to lie about, one way or the other. The Chinese are striking on anonymous blanks of metal. That makes them [i]counterfeit currency[/i]. I'm striking on genuine coins of the same type. That makes mine [i]altered[/i] coins, not counterfeit currency. The only thing that really matters about the press is the tonnage it can stamp with. However, using a surplus Denver Mint coin press for over-striking adds a certain "cachet" to the product, as does the fact that the over-strikes are done by a known person who designed coins for the US Mint. Yes, I have heard many stories of people thinking they have "hit the lottery" with their coins, only find out they didn't even get a free lunch. But these people rarely have invested a lot of their own money in the coins - they generally don't know anything about coins and got them from a relative or from a TV commercial for $19.95 .[/QUOTE]
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