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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chip, post: 1413257, member: 19122&quot;]The matter of intent is very important. I have the Davignon book about contemporary counterfeit capped bust halves. Those half dollars were produced for pennies, and were sold to agents who would pass them off in various towns and villages. The intent was to defraud merchants and others by using coins with debased metals as legal tender.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are some examples of them that are pretty bad, 10 or 12 stars, mispelt (haha) words, Had there been early collectors of the issues they would have had little or no problem identifying them as counterfeits made to defraud the general public. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mr. Carr does not produce these issues for pennies, and then pass them into the general commerce, thus he is not attempting to defraud the general public. Nor does he claim that these are patterns.&nbsp; He is upfront that these coins are overstrikes and thus is not attempting to defraud collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if it was found that Mr. Carr had purchased or made millions of blank planchets and was passing to agents millions of state quarters, that would show intent to defraud, if Mr. Carr was to advertise his coins as being patterns found in some obscure hoards, and was representing them as being mint made coins that he was acting as an agent to sell that could show an attempt to defraud collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>The thing I have though and I am not sure I understand it, maybe others do, is when you look at such coins as the 1913 V nickels which were not supposed to have been made.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or when you look at the 1933 double eagles, that were known to be made, yet were demonetized, were the 1964 Peace dollars also not made and then demonetized? </p><p><br /></p><p>If some collector had a smuggled 1964 Peace Dollar and was waiting for some day long in the future Mr. Carr certainly would have ruined his prospects. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am unsure how to phrase this lingering question I have, maybe it is my just not seeing consistency in some phases that I do not understand the finer points of.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will iterate, I do think Mr. Carrs work is a fun part of the hobby.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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