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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Kasia, post: 1413110, member: 31533&quot;]I don&#039;t say that Daniel Carr&#039;s over-strikes of Ikes with a 1970 or 1975 date are fantasy pieces (other than as an allowed answer to the poll, and distinguishing it from counterfeit), as to me a fantasy piece is a different design, based on original ideas. An over-strike with a different date is simply creating a similar coin with a date that wasn&#039;t originally used. So....based on that......are the 1815 large cents (basically known as counterfeit, since none were minted in 1815) fantasy pieces or are they counterfeits? Is it the intent of a same design coin with a non-existent date, based on US mint coins, that determines whether it is counterfeit or fantasy? Meaning the 1815 coins may have been minted just to pass off as real cents in a society, but the DC Ikes over-strikes at 80.00 or more each never going to qualify as counterfeit, based solely on them not being passed off as real 1.00 pieces due to the cost and likelihood that people purchasing them will keep them safely out of the money stream? (Not too many Ikes are used as cash money now, and only a stolen one that is passed may enter at some point, but does no harm because the original coin was issued by the mint, so no intent to defraud someone of the original dollar is there).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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