D. Carr's 1916 Barber Half Dollar Over Strike - Final Die State?

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  1. robec

    robec Junior Member

    260 examples of high grade Barber overstrikes were minted by D. Carr and his Moonlight Mint.

    I actually ordered one a year ago today, but I never really inspected it until last night. I noticed the reverse had several die cracks, but didn't know if it was by design or if the die was actually breaking up.

    I went to the Moonlight Mint site and found this bit of information about a couple of late die states.

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    Mine appears to have not only the crack from the final die state, but a couple others that have extended from the original cracks.

    I'd be interested to see if any one has this or even later die states of this overstrike.

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  3. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    I'll have to look, but i have an example of this type. I bought 2, and both had die cracks. The second I sent to my brother as a gift.
     
  4. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    You'd have to ask him for a definitive response, but I don't think the die cracks are by design. They're probably a result of the high striking pressure needed to mostly obliterate the original design.
     
  5. robec

    robec Junior Member

    After reading his description in the first photo I pretty much knew it wasn't by design. I was curious as to how many were struck before the first cracks started appearing and how the final few pieces may have looked.

    These were from Die Pair 1.
     
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  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Counterfeit dies can have die states too??? :smuggrin::D

    Couldn't resist
     
  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    And so it begins... see you 25 pages from now. :p
     
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  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Exxxxxactly
     
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  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Interesting. It's something only @dcarr can answer I suppose. My barber is the proof version I believe but now I wanna check it for cracks o_O
     
  10. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    I don't think die cracks appear on any other of the Barber's he's done. I have an example of each Barber over strike he minted and the first one is the only one with die cracks.
     
  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Mine has it as well though the horizontal crack isn't as strong as the one in your picture.
     
  12. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    I didn't notice die cracks in mine (Die 2). But I wasn't looking for any...

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    Maybe that's a crack below the last A in America? The coin is in my safe deposit box, so can't examine it closely.
     
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  13. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Arrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhh
     
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  14. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    So.........o_O
    How much above melt do these ones cost?:eek:
     
  15. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I didn't buy any of the Barbers so its out of my scope, but Carr has to make a profit and he does really good work as well. Check out his website. thumbsup.gif

    http://www.dc-coin.com/search.aspx?find=1916+barber
     
  16. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    They're beauts no doubt. I checked ebay and I think they were 100-200 somewhere. I didn't see any PL or proof ones
     
  17. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Seems he's really pumping these things out , he must have a coin going for every year a coin ended or any year they didn't mint a coin . Seems he's starting to flood the market , I wonder how long before the Chinese step in and copy the copies . He's gotta make a dollar all right .
     
  18. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    The die cracks were not intentional. Only the first die par has the cracks (and that is one of the reasons why a second die pair was made). The one shown in the second picture of the first post in this thread is the last die state. I retired the die before it cracked any further than that.
     
  19. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    I'm working on a fantasy-date over-strike type set.

    As for "pumping" them out / "flooding" the market ...
    Not really. While there are several different dates, denominations, and varieties, most have a mintage less than about 500. If the market was "flooded", the market prices would reflect that.
     
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  21. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Sooooooooo when are we going to get some cool seated Liberty overstrike quarters? I NEED that in my life
     
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