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<p>[QUOTE="Quant.Geek, post: 3283184, member: 74799"]A proper response is at hand to decipher this enigma. There are several ways of determining whether these coins are imitation or not, but unfortunately, nothing is foolproof. The Bulgarian imitations typically have tin mixed in as opposed to silver, like the original trachea, so, without a metallurgical analysis, we need to rely on clues in the coin itself. The primary identification is the loros on the reverse of the coin. In the original coinage, the loros is always different between the Emperor and the saint:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/Sear-2011.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]868011[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The official coinage have the following known loros, with three different types for the emperor and only one known for the Saint:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://glebecoins.net/paleos/Articles/The_Bulgarian___Latin_Imitativ/Alexius_III_Waistbands.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>For majority of the imitations, the loros are always identical. So, going back to [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] coin, we see:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]868013[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>which is clearly the same, hence, an imitation. Another clue to this enigma, is the nimbate saint in the original coin:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]868015[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Majority of the imitations do not have this. Unfortunately, it is not clear in the aforementioned example, so here is one from mine:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/774_xlarge_42f785f22a2d3ed4dd77258ad2345fc8.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]868018[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>There are other clues, but this is the two prominent ones. Hope this helps...</p><p><br /></p><p>QG[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Quant.Geek, post: 3283184, member: 74799"]A proper response is at hand to decipher this enigma. There are several ways of determining whether these coins are imitation or not, but unfortunately, nothing is foolproof. The Bulgarian imitations typically have tin mixed in as opposed to silver, like the original trachea, so, without a metallurgical analysis, we need to rely on clues in the coin itself. The primary identification is the loros on the reverse of the coin. In the original coinage, the loros is always different between the Emperor and the saint: [IMG]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/Sear-2011.jpg[/IMG] [ATTACH=full]868011[/ATTACH] The official coinage have the following known loros, with three different types for the emperor and only one known for the Saint: [IMG]http://glebecoins.net/paleos/Articles/The_Bulgarian___Latin_Imitativ/Alexius_III_Waistbands.jpg[/IMG] For majority of the imitations, the loros are always identical. So, going back to [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] coin, we see: [ATTACH=full]868013[/ATTACH] which is clearly the same, hence, an imitation. Another clue to this enigma, is the nimbate saint in the original coin: [ATTACH=full]868015[/ATTACH] Majority of the imitations do not have this. Unfortunately, it is not clear in the aforementioned example, so here is one from mine: [img]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/774_xlarge_42f785f22a2d3ed4dd77258ad2345fc8.jpg[/img] [ATTACH=full]868018[/ATTACH] There are other clues, but this is the two prominent ones. Hope this helps... QG[/QUOTE]
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