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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;NewStyleKing, post: 5018109, member: 106483&quot;]I do so. Provenances like anything can be faked.Lots of respected dealers dealt with him and I&#039;m sure a nod and a wink was normal. My argument was and is where did the coin in question really come from and really how long ago? </p><p>I remember Ted Buttrey had some major connection with uncovering some bullion fraud with faked paperwork and Prof. X got the Dekadrachm hoard repatriated from the USA to Turkey where it now sits, unloved and not researched!</p><p>The difference between my RRRRR 2 palms is that nobody cares and that gold coin is an internationally famous type and always has been. Nobody could just own it and stow it away unremarked even the original finder would have recognised a gold coin for its gold value. At the time of its owners acquisition many numismatists queried the authenticity of first the BM&#039;s example and then the German one, so for years they must of queried the bone fides of the article itself! So other than intrinsic value why did they acquire it? So what value a provenance,now knowing what hoard it came from and what else was in it, now that&#039;s value.</p><p>And who said, &quot;behind every fortune lies a crime&quot;, Plutarch, Pliny,Aristotle, Marx?</p><p><br /></p><p>This is one of my favourite subjects-believe nothing![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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