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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;CappedBustDimes, post: 297743, member: 9104&quot;]i am afraid you are wrong. actually it&#039;s quite the opposite of what you have described.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>after the die is engraved and annealed it loses its ductility and becomes brittle.&nbsp; when cracks, usually around the periphery, form after striking and join adjacent cracks that causes a piece of the die to become dislodged and off plane with the rest of the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>when this happens it causes the affected area on the coin to be raised on the coins surface with some detail remaining-retained cud.</p><p><br /></p><p>when the&nbsp; piece is completely dislodged and no detail is present- full cud</p><p><br /></p><p>in both cases a weak strike is observed on the side opposite the cud because there is no [or very little in retained cuds] pressure being exerted onto the planchet where the cud[/missing piece of die] is present.</p><p><br /></p><p>frank&#039;s statements would have been correct if the cud or bulge was already present on the blank planchet prior to striking rather than on the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>here are 2 more examples of the 1836 lm1.2</p><p>1836 lm-1.2</p><p><img src="http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1999/1836halfdimelm12r5xf45wkv4.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9155/1836halfdimelm12r5xf45wxs7.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>1836 lm-1.2</p><p><img src="http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/636/1836halfdimelm12vgobv11gm9.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2348/1836halfdimelm12vgrev11xk3.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>it is difficult to comprehend and even harder to explain but, a simple exercise with 2 halves of a potato [used as hammer and anvil dies] and some playdo or clay [used to represent the planchet] can help understand die deterioration.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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