Cud? Lamination?

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  1. zmemarine

    zmemarine Junior Member

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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Think about it. A cud is a break in the die involving the rim. Therefore the piece would be part of the coin with no peeling or seam. Your coin has a seam.

    A lamination happens when part of the struck coin splits. It has a seam like yours. Now, why do I :sour::troll: think it might be something else? The hint is in this paragraph.
     
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  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    It's just some kind of planchet defect in general.
     
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  5. cwart

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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Hint: Insider, posted: "A lamination happens when part of the struck coin splits."

    cwart, posted: "Finned rim?"

    If that's what it is, what evidence on the coin do you see to base that on?
     
  7. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    The piece in question appears to have folded over the devices of the coin. I don't see part of the E Pluribus Unum being struck through the metal.
     
  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    cwart, posted: "The piece in question appears to have folded over the devices of the coin. I don't see part of the E Pluribus Unum being struck through the metal.

    ;) That's exactly what I see but I'm not an expert. I don't know if a tiny part as this qualifies as a "fin." I thought fins were like a thin raised lip on the edge. That is a lot of metal in one spot.
     
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  9. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    Soon as I saw the picture my thought was finned rim that had folded over.
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A close up of the rim there without the light glare, might show that it is a folded over rim burr
     
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  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    I’m in the rim burr camp. Although I have an unlisted Jefferson cud, if it’s not listed with Cud’s on Coins, it’s likely not a cud.
     
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  12. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter Supporter

    IMO that's too much material to be a Finned Rim Foldover; I'm thinking more that it was a Delamination from a previous coin that was still in the Coining Chamber that was Struck-through and Retained.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can’t recall seeing a folded rim that leaves the rim intact as it is. A fold would hide the rim where it is folded over correct? It looks like an extra piece of metal to me.
     
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