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<p>[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 3923487, member: 4298"]Hi CT folks,</p><p><br /></p><p>No, you won’t have the pain to see me naked, that would be against CT rules, and I know for sure you don’t want to have nightmares the nights to come</p><p><br /></p><p>As I wrote in [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] ’s 2019 top of the tops my year has been very slow in terms of purchasing ancients. But as Curtis (Hum, him again….) threatened me with very weird and naughty consequences, should I not post at least a top 3...</p><p><br /></p><p>I really have not enough material to build a decent top 3 with ancients this year, it would be pityful, but what I can do is to mix it with modern and medieval. Hence, I will show you one modern, one medieval and one ancient. But I will also show off one copper, one silver and one gold (they are the same).</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>3 – Copper : France, 1st republic (1795-1803) – Cinq centimes l’AN 5 (1796-1797)</b></font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4"> </font></p><p><font size="4">Long story short : If anything , the french revolution has been a very troubled era. When the period called « Convention » ended in october 1795, a new rule of power was initiated, named « le Directoire » with a five member collegial government (directors), ruling the country until Bonaparte’s coup in 1799 . Among many other changes, the metric system replaced the old, monarchic system. After the population had lost confidence in the paper money previously massively produced, it was decided to re-introduce some metallic currencies. The first copper 5 centimes issues were so much lighter than the older Louis XVI copper sols and demi-sols that it was then felt necessary to increase the weight of the said coins. Reason why the AN 4 cinq centimes weights 5 grams, while from l’AN 5 onwards it was rose to a mere 10 grams.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1034296[/ATTACH]</p><p><b><font size="3">DIRECTOIRE – Cinq centimes l’AN 5 (1796-1797)</font></b></p><p><font size="3">REPUBLIQUE - FRANÇAISE.*. Buste drapé de la Liberté à gauche coiffée du bonnet phrygien (Mesdames Tallien ou Récamier) ; signé Dupré cursif au-dessous.</font></p><p><font size="3">CINQ / CENTIMES./ L’AN 5 . en trois lignes. En dessous la lettre d’atelier A (Paris) encadrée des différents, dans une couronne fermée composée de deux branches de chêne opposées nouées à leur base par un ruban.</font></p><p><font size="3">9,05 grammes – 28 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : Le Franc F115</font></p><p><font size="3"><i>Ex CGB</i></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>2 – Silver : Roman Republic, L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi – denarius 90 BCE</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p>This denarius has been presented to the CT community on may, 11 and you can see the related thread <b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/l-calpurnius-piso-frugi-new-rr-denarius.338809/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/l-calpurnius-piso-frugi-new-rr-denarius.338809/">here </a></b>if you like</p><p><br /></p><p>Sometimes a coin type is so common that one always thinks time will come when they'll find the right one.... but time flies and they still don't have it.</p><p><br /></p><p>The L Calpurnius Piso Frugi Apollo/horseman is one of those. Although I've been collecting ancient for 40 years, I never found myself ready for one until a few months ago</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1034298[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi, Denarius </b>Rome mint, 90 BC</font></p><p><font size="3">Laureate head of Apollo right, Δ below chin</font></p><p><font size="3">Naked horseman galloping right, holding whip; above swan. L.PISO.FRUGI / ROMA at exergue</font></p><p><font size="3">3,93 gr - 18,8 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : RCV # 235, RSC # 12b, RRC # 340/1-Calpurnia 12b-symbol 166</font></p><p><i><font size="3">Ex. Naville Numismatics</font></i></p><p><br /></p><p>What really drove me to bidding on that one are the swan in the reverse field, above the horseman, and the slight off-center giving a feeling the rider and his horse are going to jump out of the flan just as they would in a rush (a tiny off-center sometimes gives a dynamic to the reverse scene). In hand the toning isn't bad either (yes I'm pretty happy with it as you might guess)</p><p><br /></p><p>Quote from a comment in RCV, millenium edition, p.117 : "t<i>his extraordinarily large and complex issuerepresents one of the principal war-coinages of the Romans during the conflict with the Marsic confederation. The control marks are legions and consist of letters, numerals and symbols in a multitude of combinations on obv. and rev.</i>"</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>1 – Gold : Dombes principality , Anne Marie Louise d’Orleans - sequin (undated)</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p>Anne Marie Louise de Bourbon, AKA <i>La Grande Mademoiselle</i>, was born to Gaston d'Orleans and Marie de Montpensier in 1627 CE. A few days after her birth her mother passed away and she became sole heir of the <b>principality of Dombes.</b> Until she'd been emancipated by her cousin Louis XIV "<i>Le Roi Soleil</i>" in 1650 CE, her father (and Louis XIV's uncle) Gaston d'Orleans ruled the Dombes as regent.</p><p><br /></p><p>For those interested in reading a little more here's the Wikipedia page on the subject of the Dombes principality (in english) : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombes" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombes" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombes</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Anne Marie Louise coinage is abundant, especially 1/12 ecu also known as <i>Luigini</i>, which have been shamelessely copied by other rulers as they were very popular in the whole Middle East at the moment, purportedly because they featured a female bust on the obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Other than that are liards, a rather crude billon coinage, usually struck on short flans (finding one with complete legends and date is quite unusual) that you can find by the million.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some other very rare denominations exist, such as a gold sequin, and exceedingly rare ecus and 1/6 ecus. I’ve been in chase for a sequin for ten years now, one of them popping up at auction every other year at maximum. Having been outbid everytime I had tried to put my hands on an example, when this one appeared at Kunker auction last october, and because it was far above average as per preservation, I jumped on it and didn’t let it go.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1034302[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>Dombes – Anne Marie Louise d’Orleans, Sequin, or - sans date</b></font></p><p><font size="3">Atelier de Trévoux</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>FRANC PRINC - SM TREVO</b>, Saint Marc à droite remettant un etendard au prince à gauche. Dans le champ <b>DVX</b></font></p><p><font size="3"><b>SIT TX ADIVTO - REGIS TE DOMBA</b>, Le Christ bénissant de face, entouré de seize étoiles</font></p><p><font size="3">3,47 gr</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : Divo Dombes # 219, Friedberg # 123, Mantellier -, Poey d'Avant # 5134 (Poey d'Avant attribuait cette monnaie à François II de Bourbon Montpensier)</font></p><p><font size="3"><i>Ex Kuenker</i></font></p><p><br /></p><p>As it’s undated, and because the obverse legend reads FRANC PRINC, this sequin has for long been attributed to François II de Montpensier, great grand father of Anne Marie Louise on her mother’s side. Stylewise, this sequin is more of the mid 17th century than one century before. Also, the coin obviously copies the venitian sequins that were in use all over Europe at the time. three of the Doges of the period being Francesco Contarini (1623-1624), Francesco Erizzo (1631-1644) and Francesco Molino (1646-1655), it’s likely this sequin could have copied their sequin’s legends to fool people. Don't forget to remember the whole coinage of Dombes copying various emissions of their time, be it Italy with the cavalier d'or, Spain with the Pistole, France with most of their testons, liards double and denier tournois, and finally Venetia with that sequin</p><p><br /></p><p>Q[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 3923487, member: 4298"]Hi CT folks, No, you won’t have the pain to see me naked, that would be against CT rules, and I know for sure you don’t want to have nightmares the nights to come As I wrote in [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] ’s 2019 top of the tops my year has been very slow in terms of purchasing ancients. But as Curtis (Hum, him again….) threatened me with very weird and naughty consequences, should I not post at least a top 3... I really have not enough material to build a decent top 3 with ancients this year, it would be pityful, but what I can do is to mix it with modern and medieval. Hence, I will show you one modern, one medieval and one ancient. But I will also show off one copper, one silver and one gold (they are the same). [SIZE=5][B]3 – Copper : France, 1st republic (1795-1803) – Cinq centimes l’AN 5 (1796-1797)[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] Long story short : If anything , the french revolution has been a very troubled era. When the period called « Convention » ended in october 1795, a new rule of power was initiated, named « le Directoire » with a five member collegial government (directors), ruling the country until Bonaparte’s coup in 1799 . Among many other changes, the metric system replaced the old, monarchic system. After the population had lost confidence in the paper money previously massively produced, it was decided to re-introduce some metallic currencies. The first copper 5 centimes issues were so much lighter than the older Louis XVI copper sols and demi-sols that it was then felt necessary to increase the weight of the said coins. Reason why the AN 4 cinq centimes weights 5 grams, while from l’AN 5 onwards it was rose to a mere 10 grams.[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1034296[/ATTACH] [B][SIZE=3]DIRECTOIRE – Cinq centimes l’AN 5 (1796-1797)[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3]REPUBLIQUE - FRANÇAISE.*. Buste drapé de la Liberté à gauche coiffée du bonnet phrygien (Mesdames Tallien ou Récamier) ; signé Dupré cursif au-dessous. CINQ / CENTIMES./ L’AN 5 . en trois lignes. En dessous la lettre d’atelier A (Paris) encadrée des différents, dans une couronne fermée composée de deux branches de chêne opposées nouées à leur base par un ruban. 9,05 grammes – 28 mm Ref : Le Franc F115 [I]Ex CGB[/I][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][B]2 – Silver : Roman Republic, L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi – denarius 90 BCE[/B][/SIZE] This denarius has been presented to the CT community on may, 11 and you can see the related thread [B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/l-calpurnius-piso-frugi-new-rr-denarius.338809/']here [/URL][/B]if you like Sometimes a coin type is so common that one always thinks time will come when they'll find the right one.... but time flies and they still don't have it. The L Calpurnius Piso Frugi Apollo/horseman is one of those. Although I've been collecting ancient for 40 years, I never found myself ready for one until a few months ago [ATTACH=full]1034298[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi, Denarius [/B]Rome mint, 90 BC Laureate head of Apollo right, Δ below chin Naked horseman galloping right, holding whip; above swan. L.PISO.FRUGI / ROMA at exergue 3,93 gr - 18,8 mm Ref : RCV # 235, RSC # 12b, RRC # 340/1-Calpurnia 12b-symbol 166[/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]Ex. Naville Numismatics[/SIZE][/I] What really drove me to bidding on that one are the swan in the reverse field, above the horseman, and the slight off-center giving a feeling the rider and his horse are going to jump out of the flan just as they would in a rush (a tiny off-center sometimes gives a dynamic to the reverse scene). In hand the toning isn't bad either (yes I'm pretty happy with it as you might guess) Quote from a comment in RCV, millenium edition, p.117 : "t[I]his extraordinarily large and complex issuerepresents one of the principal war-coinages of the Romans during the conflict with the Marsic confederation. The control marks are legions and consist of letters, numerals and symbols in a multitude of combinations on obv. and rev.[/I]" [SIZE=5][B]1 – Gold : Dombes principality , Anne Marie Louise d’Orleans - sequin (undated)[/B][/SIZE] Anne Marie Louise de Bourbon, AKA [I]La Grande Mademoiselle[/I], was born to Gaston d'Orleans and Marie de Montpensier in 1627 CE. A few days after her birth her mother passed away and she became sole heir of the [B]principality of Dombes.[/B] Until she'd been emancipated by her cousin Louis XIV "[I]Le Roi Soleil[/I]" in 1650 CE, her father (and Louis XIV's uncle) Gaston d'Orleans ruled the Dombes as regent. For those interested in reading a little more here's the Wikipedia page on the subject of the Dombes principality (in english) : [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dombes[/URL] Anne Marie Louise coinage is abundant, especially 1/12 ecu also known as [I]Luigini[/I], which have been shamelessely copied by other rulers as they were very popular in the whole Middle East at the moment, purportedly because they featured a female bust on the obverse. Other than that are liards, a rather crude billon coinage, usually struck on short flans (finding one with complete legends and date is quite unusual) that you can find by the million. Some other very rare denominations exist, such as a gold sequin, and exceedingly rare ecus and 1/6 ecus. I’ve been in chase for a sequin for ten years now, one of them popping up at auction every other year at maximum. Having been outbid everytime I had tried to put my hands on an example, when this one appeared at Kunker auction last october, and because it was far above average as per preservation, I jumped on it and didn’t let it go. [ATTACH=full]1034302[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]Dombes – Anne Marie Louise d’Orleans, Sequin, or - sans date[/B] Atelier de Trévoux [B]FRANC PRINC - SM TREVO[/B], Saint Marc à droite remettant un etendard au prince à gauche. Dans le champ [B]DVX[/B] [B]SIT TX ADIVTO - REGIS TE DOMBA[/B], Le Christ bénissant de face, entouré de seize étoiles 3,47 gr Ref : Divo Dombes # 219, Friedberg # 123, Mantellier -, Poey d'Avant # 5134 (Poey d'Avant attribuait cette monnaie à François II de Bourbon Montpensier) [I]Ex Kuenker[/I][/SIZE] As it’s undated, and because the obverse legend reads FRANC PRINC, this sequin has for long been attributed to François II de Montpensier, great grand father of Anne Marie Louise on her mother’s side. Stylewise, this sequin is more of the mid 17th century than one century before. Also, the coin obviously copies the venitian sequins that were in use all over Europe at the time. three of the Doges of the period being Francesco Contarini (1623-1624), Francesco Erizzo (1631-1644) and Francesco Molino (1646-1655), it’s likely this sequin could have copied their sequin’s legends to fool people. Don't forget to remember the whole coinage of Dombes copying various emissions of their time, be it Italy with the cavalier d'or, Spain with the Pistole, France with most of their testons, liards double and denier tournois, and finally Venetia with that sequin Q[/QUOTE]
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