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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 7970820, member: 99456"]Thanks for posting your interesting coins! I agree - and thanks for raising an important caveat on seller attributions - I am prompted to edit the OP to say "share your dirhems" regardless of certainty in origin. Incomplete legends from small flans, partial strikes, and wear make this challenging.</p><p><br /></p><p>From what I've read so far, the anachronistic dates (e.g. citing al-Mustansir on coins dated in the 640's) and use of Christian symbols or margin legends is the only way to attribute the imitations with certainty. Michael Bates in his 1974 article is explicit <i>"epigraphical errors and elisions occur on both Ayyubid and Crusader issues...and constitute no bass for distinguishing between the two".</i></p><p><br /></p><p>I remain interested to learn more from others expert in these coins. There is no shortage of interesting history on all sides - Ayyubid and crusader, and Byzantine. Here is another coin of a type that I don't collect, but happen to own.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1382648[/ATTACH]</p><p>Alexius I Comnenus Aspron Trachy. Alexius I, the Byzantine ruler when the first crusade was launched.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 7970820, member: 99456"]Thanks for posting your interesting coins! I agree - and thanks for raising an important caveat on seller attributions - I am prompted to edit the OP to say "share your dirhems" regardless of certainty in origin. Incomplete legends from small flans, partial strikes, and wear make this challenging. From what I've read so far, the anachronistic dates (e.g. citing al-Mustansir on coins dated in the 640's) and use of Christian symbols or margin legends is the only way to attribute the imitations with certainty. Michael Bates in his 1974 article is explicit [I]"epigraphical errors and elisions occur on both Ayyubid and Crusader issues...and constitute no bass for distinguishing between the two".[/I] I remain interested to learn more from others expert in these coins. There is no shortage of interesting history on all sides - Ayyubid and crusader, and Byzantine. Here is another coin of a type that I don't collect, but happen to own. [ATTACH=full]1382648[/ATTACH] Alexius I Comnenus Aspron Trachy. Alexius I, the Byzantine ruler when the first crusade was launched.[/QUOTE]
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