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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Michael2910, post: 1480281, member: 38958&quot;]Okay first of all this is my first post looking for help so I apologize if I make a mess of this and if there is anything that I can do better to improve this then please any assistance is appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway to the meat of my issue, I work in a coin shop and we bought a small collection of world coins, mostly British, that included a couple of beautiful looking Counter stamped 8 Reales which we sent off to be graded and authenticated along with several of the better British coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>We knew the British coins were authentic and just wanted a grade but we were unsure of the two 8 Reales counter stamps. We knew the coins were consistent with known patterns and they looked good, but just didn&#039;t have the experience or knowledge to make the call ourselves (I am very green and the owner of the shop deals primarily in US coins).</p><p><br /></p><p>The coins came back from NGC all beautiful and graded including one of the counter stamps, a 1757 8 Reales from Jamaica in the British Commonwealth, counter stamped 6s 8d from 1758 in XF Details,but with one question, a 1792 8 Reales that appears to be counter stamped with 4s 9d by the Arkwright family in Cromford, Derbyshire, this came back in a body bag which seemed to suggest that the coin was fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>So the tale could have ended there but I am an inquisitive sole by nature and I have seen a couple of images of this coin online and ours seemed the right design and (this was not my suggestion but the store&#039;s owner, I am green remember!) the toning seemed consistent throughout the coin as if the the coin had been counter stamped in the sime time period, give or take a few decades, to when it had been struck. As a learning experience I thought why not call NGC and find out why it came back as ungraded.</p><p>I called NGC and was told &quot;we don&#039;t grade merchant counter stamps anymore&quot; so the mystery was once again reopened.</p><p><br /></p><p>I could have left it there but the collection seemed consistently genuine and I thought it was wortk a mulligan if you will, so I sent the coin to PCGS (after first confirming that they grade these coins!). I waited 5 weeks and eventually got an e-mail from PCGS.....they were unable to say if it was genuine so they sent it back to us by FedEx and refunded out grading fees. </p><p><br /></p><p>So here I am 4 months after first getting this coin on my desk still non the wiser, as I am green I didn&#039;t really know enough about all the resources out there from avid collectors until one of my customers suggested this would be a great way to further my knowledge so I thought why not.</p><p><br /></p><p>I suppose my question is what do you guys think, I know what this coin is supposed to be, I know it is fairly rare but how do I know what it really is and what value is there in this coin either way.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am at your mercy, please be kind and I have one suggestion for myself already, make my threads a little shorter (sorry I wanted you to know my train of thought as to why I feel this coin has a chance of being genuine).[ATTACH]187244.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]187245.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]187246.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]187247.vB[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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