Croc Lot Arrived

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dadams, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. dadams

    dadams Supporter! Supporter

    I've seen a few threads here at CT on these Nemausus Croc coins, but it was @Julius Germanicus's My first Crocodile thread and @dougsmit's Impossible to Grade? article that got me looking and I stumbled across this lot from a French seller on ebay:


    At 48 Euros shipped, or about 1.95/coin, I didn't think I could go to wrong - They arrived today:


    I've only had a couple hours with them so far, but I already found one interesting Croc with a DD Countermark, which stands for Decreto Decurionum (Decree of the Council).


    I'm excited about these, but it may take me a while to catalogue them as there's lots to learn.

    How about sharing any countermarked coins.

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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A very cool looking lot
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  4. Daniel_R6

    Daniel_R6 Well-Known Member

    Nice add. Looking forward to see how you progress with these.
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  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

    Some very interesting items from this lot I think

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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    A couple of those cut-in-half croc coins look really nice for the price, especially the one with the bottom half of the croc on one side and Augustus's full head on the other. I've also never seen a $1.95 As of Agrippa before. Nice!
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Very cool lot! A no-brainer at the price, I think!

    I like the patina on the half that's to the right of the top row (just to the right of a whole coin).

    @dadams- Amazon told me your Christmas gift from @Aethelred and I would arrive Thursday. I guess if it didn't, you should see it today (it's early AM Friday as I type this).

    LMK how it is. I have not read it yet, nor listened to Mike Duncan in a little while. Michael has the audiobook, I believe.

    Anybody else read this one yet?

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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Oh, and now you've got ME thinking about croco-coins!

    Too bad I'm broke at the moment. Eh, well, I've got other stuff on my radar anyway.

    But now those are gonna be at the back of my mind, 'cause I've never had one.
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    From what I see, you did quite well for the price.:)


    I paid about $13.00 shipped for this sole 'half' back in 2015 and thought that was more than reasonable for the type.
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Fun project to go thru that Lot! Congrats on the cool lot and great price @dadams !

    Crocs are always cool, but it also looks like a few hidden gems in there. Are you going to do a cleaning or keep them as is?

    Cilicia - Tarsos turret counterstamped Bow Pompey Pirates AE 19 164 BCE Tyche-Zeus seated

    These bow case stamps are occasionally found on coins of the south coastal regions of Asia Minor, although their meaning is uncertain. In 67 BC, Pompey crushed the Cilician Pirates and subjected the city to Roman rule, making Tarsos the capitol of the Province of Cilicia. Tarsos was also the scene of Marc Antony and Cleopatra’s first meeting, so it’s possible the counterstamps remonetizing these issues had something to do with the political struggles of the Late Roman Republic. The counterstamp on this coin is unusually crisp, showing the bow, case, and several arrows in their entirety.
  11. dadams

    dadams Supporter! Supporter

    Got the book!!! I started in on it late last night and got through about 15 pages. So far reads well. I immensely enjoyed Duncan's THoR podcast series and am sure to like TSBTS. I'll send it your way when I'm finished with it.
  12. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Very nice!
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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Cool - you're going to have a great time piecing them together and attributing them.
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  14. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker Supporter

    A really fascinating group of coins at a killer price. I love the mystery and discovery process of buying group lots and uncleaned lots. I think I have been burned at least half the time but your lot looks like a great score.

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  15. dadams

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    Apologies for dropping off the face of the planet since Friday -

    I'm guessing this is the one you both spotted:
    This cut one showing Augustus facing right and wearing oak-wreath on the obverse and with the letter P. This coin would have included P P (Pater Patriae) across the fields on the obverse in front of each of the busts. Augustus, received the Pater Patriae title in 2 bc which indicates this to be a later "revival" piece. COL and the back end of Crocodile to right on the reverse.

    Most of the crocs seem pretty decent to me, so I'll most likely just leave them alone. Secondly, I don't know anything about cleaning ancients and I'd fear doing more harm than good. There are a few non-crocs in this lot that could probably be helped with a scrub.

    One such is this Trajan:
    My attribution skills are seriously lacking as well, but I've determined this to be a dupondius of Trajan, Radiate Bust Right and I think:
    I can make out PO on the reverse making this TR POT COS (II / III / IIII ?)
    I can make out S C in exergue

    This Would narrow it down to RIC 385, RIC 398, RIC 411 or RIC 428 - my eyes don't seem to be making out any more detail to narrow it further [​IMG]
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