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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;panzerman, post: 26122812, member: 77704&quot;]Yes, what really bugs me, when an auction house has a coin graded as MS/ yet they state it was in previous Ars Classica event. So I look it up and it was graded EF back in 2004!!!!! Same Heritage sold a NGC MS-65 France 1812-A AV 20 Francs for $4500 US. Same coin, remained &quot;unsold&quot; in WAG auction. Starting bid was 2200E, it was graded fast. st. (ex: Heritage) where it hammered for 4500+fees! They never mentioned it was in holder, graded MS-65.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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