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<p>[QUOTE="Heliodromus, post: 7960901, member: 120820"]That piece is from the Victoria & Albert museum in London. They suggest a date range of 400-600AD for it.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O119197/textile-fragment-unknown/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O119197/textile-fragment-unknown/" rel="nofollow">https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O119197/textile-fragment-unknown/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The "equilateral cross with dot in each quadrant" symbol, as seen on Tejas' Rome vota coin, and on that textile fragment, is interesting, but I don't think it's really a religious symbol - neither pagan or Christian. I believe this is a symbol representing the cosmos, the same as seen on the globe held by the emperor on some coins, or on the globe the phoenix stands on on one of FEL TEMP types, as well as in many other contexts.</p><p><br /></p><p>We also see this symbol in what can be taken as a Christian context as one of a handful of alternate symbols on the standard held by the emperor on the FEL TEMP "emperor + captives" type, but it doesn't appear to really have been adopted as a Christian symbol - too generic perhaps. I suppose in any context, pagan or Christian, it was essentially meant as a claim to a universal dominion of power.</p><p><br /></p><p>The orientation of the symbol doesn't appear to be significant; sometimes it's seen orientated as "+", othertimes as "x".</p><p><br /></p><p>Here it is on the FEL TEMP standard. This symbol was only used at Antioch, where we see the biggest variety of symbols used.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380039[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Heliodromus, post: 7960901, member: 120820"]That piece is from the Victoria & Albert museum in London. They suggest a date range of 400-600AD for it. [URL]https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O119197/textile-fragment-unknown/[/URL] The "equilateral cross with dot in each quadrant" symbol, as seen on Tejas' Rome vota coin, and on that textile fragment, is interesting, but I don't think it's really a religious symbol - neither pagan or Christian. I believe this is a symbol representing the cosmos, the same as seen on the globe held by the emperor on some coins, or on the globe the phoenix stands on on one of FEL TEMP types, as well as in many other contexts. We also see this symbol in what can be taken as a Christian context as one of a handful of alternate symbols on the standard held by the emperor on the FEL TEMP "emperor + captives" type, but it doesn't appear to really have been adopted as a Christian symbol - too generic perhaps. I suppose in any context, pagan or Christian, it was essentially meant as a claim to a universal dominion of power. The orientation of the symbol doesn't appear to be significant; sometimes it's seen orientated as "+", othertimes as "x". Here it is on the FEL TEMP standard. This symbol was only used at Antioch, where we see the biggest variety of symbols used. [ATTACH=full]1380039[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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