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<p>[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1854582, member: 41863"]Couple things, truthfully I never checked the length of each individual book and how much it would take to print them. I just seen that they were like a wiki and you have to go to each subsequent page, never viewing all of the e-book in one fell swoop. Plus people always gripe how expensive old resource guides are so i thought this was a clever way around trying to hunt down out of print material and paying a premium once you found it. Also, alot of programs condense material just for printing, so neither of us really knows at all how much paper it would take because we cant see a set-up geared towards printing at the moment. </p><p><br /></p><p>The second thing is the question about printing and not getting caught. My point there was that if I had taken the instruction of the DLRC representative and had printed (with permission from them) and never posted this thread, then consciously I would have felt in the right and easily seen myself printing them all off with no second thought about it. How would I have known I was in the wrong? How would i still be in the wrong having express permission from the people hosting the material?</p><p><br /></p><p>The question how you worded it seems to imply that I knew I was wrong from the start and that my ethics are skewed for even thinking about printing off an available online resource, when from my standpoint, PRIOR to writing this thread I wouldve felt consciously clear about making a copy. In short, from MY PERSPECTIVE, there was no problem with printing until i penned this topic. Right or wrong, that was my perspective based on how things unfolded. And I am just trying to clarify, as I feel my personal ethics compass points straight for the most part, although everybody needs to learn a few things now and then as evidenced by this thread and my mis-understanding. </p><p><br /></p><p>So my follow-up question to you Doug is where do I fall since I was directed by DLRC to print this material off. Would that be acceptable? Should I follow up with them a little more (like I did on facebook requesting the help of an IT person from DLRC) or should i just drop the whole notion of building a library for myself like this?</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh, and just another little caveat to add. And again this may be my own personal misunderstanding. Is it not ok to copy material with no intentions of exploiting or selling the copied material? I thought there were certain things you could copy as long as you didnt plagiarize the material, or use it somehow for monetary gain by directly using the original material as your own. Basically, if you just wanted it for your own personal reference and didnt try to sell copies of the original I would be alright, or at least thats what i thought, anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kind of like a CD, DVD, or NFL broadcast. You cant copy any of those things to be redistributed or used in a wide spread manner. But its perfectly legal to make a copy for you own needs or as a backup to use later on.</p><p><br /></p><p>So far this thread has been quite educational, not in the sense that I was going for in trying to build a library, but I am learning things and truly do want to clarify for myself so i dont make mistakes in the future.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1854582, member: 41863"]Couple things, truthfully I never checked the length of each individual book and how much it would take to print them. I just seen that they were like a wiki and you have to go to each subsequent page, never viewing all of the e-book in one fell swoop. Plus people always gripe how expensive old resource guides are so i thought this was a clever way around trying to hunt down out of print material and paying a premium once you found it. Also, alot of programs condense material just for printing, so neither of us really knows at all how much paper it would take because we cant see a set-up geared towards printing at the moment. The second thing is the question about printing and not getting caught. My point there was that if I had taken the instruction of the DLRC representative and had printed (with permission from them) and never posted this thread, then consciously I would have felt in the right and easily seen myself printing them all off with no second thought about it. How would I have known I was in the wrong? How would i still be in the wrong having express permission from the people hosting the material? The question how you worded it seems to imply that I knew I was wrong from the start and that my ethics are skewed for even thinking about printing off an available online resource, when from my standpoint, PRIOR to writing this thread I wouldve felt consciously clear about making a copy. In short, from MY PERSPECTIVE, there was no problem with printing until i penned this topic. Right or wrong, that was my perspective based on how things unfolded. And I am just trying to clarify, as I feel my personal ethics compass points straight for the most part, although everybody needs to learn a few things now and then as evidenced by this thread and my mis-understanding. So my follow-up question to you Doug is where do I fall since I was directed by DLRC to print this material off. Would that be acceptable? Should I follow up with them a little more (like I did on facebook requesting the help of an IT person from DLRC) or should i just drop the whole notion of building a library for myself like this? Oh, and just another little caveat to add. And again this may be my own personal misunderstanding. Is it not ok to copy material with no intentions of exploiting or selling the copied material? I thought there were certain things you could copy as long as you didnt plagiarize the material, or use it somehow for monetary gain by directly using the original material as your own. Basically, if you just wanted it for your own personal reference and didnt try to sell copies of the original I would be alright, or at least thats what i thought, anyway. Kind of like a CD, DVD, or NFL broadcast. You cant copy any of those things to be redistributed or used in a wide spread manner. But its perfectly legal to make a copy for you own needs or as a backup to use later on. So far this thread has been quite educational, not in the sense that I was going for in trying to build a library, but I am learning things and truly do want to clarify for myself so i dont make mistakes in the future.[/QUOTE]
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