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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;panzerman, post: 8173430, member: 77704&quot;]I recently won a Zürich 1717 Doppel Dukat (Zwingli) for 2000 Sfrcs from Munzen-online. This coin is MS-66+ absolutely flawless, in Oct/ 2021. I can imagine this coin &quot;slabbed&quot; as a 66. Might add a &quot;0&quot;<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Problem is that US collectors consider &quot;65/66 as GEM mint state/ Europeans/ Brits see same coin as a near MS/ fast st.</p><p>spl.......and will hammer for half the amt.</p><p><br /></p><p>A few years ago, I had a couple of coins TPG just to see this fact/ all were Kunker fast stempelglanz (AU) All three coins came back as MS66/ MS65+/ 67[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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