Couple of Auctions - Couple of Carthage Coins

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Fun times: Couple of great Auctions lately yielded a couple of nice AE coins from Carthage.

    Carthage was the OTHER World Power up until around 201 BCE when they lost the 2nd Punic War to Rome. They limped along for another 50 years, and began to really rebuild themselves and their City. Unfortunately, too many politicos (lead by Cato the Elder), finally swayed Rome to extinguish Carthage from the planet. From 148-146 BCE Rome fought the 3rd Punic War. In the end, Carthage as a City and Entity was obliterated from the planet. The City was razed, people slaughtered, and the few left over were sold into slavery. Carthage was extinct.

    Later, perhaps another 50 years later, it was rebuilt by the Romans, but it was not a Punic Carthage, rather a Roman Carthage.

    Empire of Carthage:
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    Nice synopsis of the History of Carthage:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Carthage

    Cato the Elder
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    Yeah... "Dalenda est Carthago" was this guy's mantra... (besides, "Get me some more prune juice!")

    Imagine today if a World Power WIPED OUT another World Power and made them extinct...

    Here are a couple cool AE's that I captured, 1 each from a couple of different auctions.

    Ahhh... COINS!

    CARTHAGE:

    2nd Punic War
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    Carthage 220-215 BCE
    AE 31mm approx 18g
    2nd Punic War
    Tanit
    Horse Palm Punic S inside T
    SNG COP 342


    Carthage just prior to 1st Punic War
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    Carthage 300-264 BCE
    AE 19 19mm 5.62g
    Sardinia mint
    Tanit wreathed
    Horse hd r Punic letter ayin
    SNG COP 151
    JP Righetti collection

    Please post any of your Carthage Coins are any of the Roman Republic during these times
     
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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great post and very interesting coins. I am still after a gold Tanit stater. Congrats on your very nice wins.
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I am really looking forward to you posting it!
     
  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Both very nice coins with great detail, congrats Alegandron, haven't got any Carthage coins to date but working on it..:(
     
  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Thanks for saying so, but I have 2 coins higher on the list before that one.
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Both are nice-- the Sardinia horse especially so :)

    I have a smattering of Punic coins.

    Smallest:

    CarthagoNovaAE12.jpg IBERIA, Punic Iberia
    c. 237-209 BCE; Æ 12.4 mm, 1.4 gm
    Obv: head of Tanit left
    Rev: helmet to left
    Ref: (I haven't verified these) SNG BM Spain 67; CNH pg. 69, 46; Burgos 524
    A hasty purchase 4 years ago and I still haven't really studied this coin :oops:

    Largest (and one everyone is probably sick seeing :D)

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    ZEUGITANA, Carthage
    early 2nd century BCE
    AE 15-shekel, 45 mm, 95 gm
    Obv: wreathed head of Tanit left
    Rev: horse standing right, left foreleg up; solar disk with uraei above
    Ref: Alexandropoulos J (2000) Les monnaies de l'Afrique Antique, 103; Müller L (1861) Numismatique de L'Ancienne Afrique, 131; Luynes 3782; Jenkins GK and Lewis RB (1963) Carthaginian Gold and Electrum Coins, Royal Numismatic Society, London, pl. 28 12

    Ugliest:

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    IBERIA, Punic Iberia
    237-209 BCE
    AR 1/4 shekel
    Obv: laureate male head left (Melqart/Herakles? Hannibal?); club over far shoulder
    Rev: Elephant walking right.
    Ref: MHC 47; CNH 15; SNG BM Spain 102

    Prettiest (and man oh man I'm still over the moon about this coin :) ):

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    SICILY, Entella. Punic issues
    c. 300-289 BCE; AR tetradrachm, 24 mm, 16.8 gm, 12h)
    Obv: head of Melquart-Herakles right, wearing lion skin
    Rev: head of horse left; astragalos (cut over poppy) to left, palm tree to right, Punic MHSBM (approximate meaning is "quaestors" or financial controllers) below
    Ref: Jenkins, Punic 366 (O115/R298), series 5b

    A brief video showing the coin in "live" lighting:
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    All of these are fantastic @TIF ! Your two AR's have been in my crosshairs a couple times. Then another cool coin steps in the way when I pull the trigger!
     
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  9. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Wow Brian those are spectacular. I especially like the AE. Great write up too. That Cato the Elder was so crotchety.

    Nicely done @TIF. Cool coin video also.
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Alegandron, I have the same 2 coins in my little collection:

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  13. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Okay, so now, with the following question, I will flaunt my ignorance: Why all the horses? Was Carthage known for its horse breeding?
     
  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Fantastic posts everyone!!

    Three of mine:

    Carthage, Zeugitana, 221-210 B.C. Head of Tanit / Horse
    Carthage 2.jpg




    Carthaginians in Sicily, 300 - 289 B.C., Silver[​IMG]tetradrachm, Jenkins Punic 394 (O120/R322); SNG Cop VIII 91; Dewing 983; SGCV II 6438; HGC 2 295
    Carthiginians in Sicily.jpg



    Zeugitania, Carthage. 400-350 B.C. Bust of Tanit / Horse by Palm
    carthage.jpg
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    As I read through my SNG Cop book, it is heavily plated with horses and horse heads. I believe reading Carthage history that they liked horse breeding as part of their culture.
     
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  16. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Unlike my avatar name would suggest, I only have two Carthaginian coins.

    Sicily Entella Punic Issue Tetradrachm CNG 1-2007.jpg Carthage electrum stater Lanz 2008.jpg
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  18. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I had my eye on both of those! Decided not to go after the FSR one, and totally forgot to bid on the Sardinian. Now I'm glad... because they both went to our CT Carthage Master!!

    Still happy with what I got out of the FSR sale... seems that nobody else noticed the Tacitus double-ant??
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Well, THANK you! I am honored that they caught your good eye, but glad I did not have to battle you for them! There are still several I am interested in pursuing, including a Siculo-Carthage Tet!
     
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