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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 37992, member: 112&quot;]OK - took a crash course on the gigliato, also known as the gillat &amp; carlino, last night and today. Here&#039;s what I found.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin design originally started out in Naples in 1303 and soon became the one of the most popular silver trade coins in the Mediterranean. It was copied by virtually everybody, Popes, Bishops, Princes &amp; Kings. The coin weighed 3.93 gm, ASW 3.65gm, and was 27mm. It had as types the seated figure of the king and a floriated cross with a lily in each corner which gave the coin its name gigliato.</p><p><br /></p><p>It was struck in huge quantities by Charles II and his successor Robert the Wise 1309 - 43. Robert even issued the coin at Avignon as well since he was the Count of Provence and the coin also spread throughout the Aegean area and became the model for the coins struck by local rulers there. The became so popular that it continued to be struck in Robert&#039;s name for decades after his death. </p><p><br /></p><p>Even in the mid 15th century the coin was ordered to be struck at the Papal mints by Martin V and Eugenius IV. The new coins were only distinguished from the original design by the use of the mint master&#039;s segno ( privy mark ) at the end of the reverse legend. Which brings us to your coin Rick.</p><p><br /></p><p>You said it looks a bit odd to you - well I think that may be because you might have one of those examples struck by Martin V or Eugenius IV. The legends on Robert&#039;s coin should read - </p><p><br /></p><p>obv - +ROBERTUS DEI GRA IERL&#039; ET SICIL REX</p><p><br /></p><p>rev - +HONOR REGIS IUDICIU DILIGIT</p><p><br /></p><p>Your coin has the correct legends of course, but the symbol at 12 o&#039;clock of the reverse should be a small + (cross) as found on the obverse before ROBERTUS. Your coin has instead a rather large gothic cross.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I don&#039;t know for sure that this large cross is the segno as mentioned above, but perhaps it is. I have pictures of Robert&#039;s coin to compare, and I have found an example of Robert&#039;s coin available on-line - <a href="http://www.vcoins.com/civitas/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=2109&amp;large=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vcoins.com/civitas/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=2109&amp;large=0" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>&nbsp; This coin ( at the link ) matches what I have in my books. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is also possible that this coin may have been struck at any of the mints that copied this coin&#039;s design over a period of almost 250 yrs. And of course it is also possible it is a counterfeit - or genuine. To be honest I have no idea - I can only report on the information available to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s about all I can do in 1 day pal&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>PS - you might wish to contact Josh ( WINS member ) - and that&#039;s his web site by the way, Civitas, he actually knows this stuff&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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