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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1252219, member: 26302"]I didn't realize his coin was one of the tribute countermarked ones. I have walked through the logic of these, (in my mind at least), and I consider them Hepthalite issues, for payment to the Turks. First, they were obviously not Sassanid issues, and if struck by the Hepthalites to pay to the Sassanids the Persian would not have wanted such close copies of their own coinage. The dating of these, as well, seem to indicate past 570 so it would be after the were defeated by the Turks and Sassanids. In that era a lot of local Hepthalite lords were allowed to rule in places like Zabulistan and simply pay tribute to the Turk overloards. Therefor, I always thought these were simply Hepthalite coins struck as payment to Turks, but do not know whether the Hepthalites or the Turks countermarked them. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do not know if that helps, but is what I can piece together from my references. I have 10 of these purchased from CNG a while ago, so I had looked into the background.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw you can usually find these coins with and without countermarks. That is another aspect of who struck them and why I considered. It simply does not answer who struck the countermarks, only why.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1252219, member: 26302"]I didn't realize his coin was one of the tribute countermarked ones. I have walked through the logic of these, (in my mind at least), and I consider them Hepthalite issues, for payment to the Turks. First, they were obviously not Sassanid issues, and if struck by the Hepthalites to pay to the Sassanids the Persian would not have wanted such close copies of their own coinage. The dating of these, as well, seem to indicate past 570 so it would be after the were defeated by the Turks and Sassanids. In that era a lot of local Hepthalite lords were allowed to rule in places like Zabulistan and simply pay tribute to the Turk overloards. Therefor, I always thought these were simply Hepthalite coins struck as payment to Turks, but do not know whether the Hepthalites or the Turks countermarked them. I do not know if that helps, but is what I can piece together from my references. I have 10 of these purchased from CNG a while ago, so I had looked into the background. Chris Btw you can usually find these coins with and without countermarks. That is another aspect of who struck them and why I considered. It simply does not answer who struck the countermarks, only why.[/QUOTE]
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