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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1252039, member: 26302"]Its unusual for them to imitate that ruler, most imitations done by Hepthalites were of Peroz coins. This was because they captured him and as ransom had many donkey loads of Peroz coins given in exchange. Since so much of their money was Peroz coins, that is what they usually copied on their own. I would want to look at that obverse versus Peroz and Hormizd coins to see if they were really copying Hormizd.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me it looks like a Zabulistan issue, as those are usually well worn dies. I have one with the obverse die worn down to the nub by the time it was used, imprinted just a mash on the obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Excellent countermark, btw. It is very scarce to get such clear countermarks like that. Great coin!</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Looking at it more it sure isn't a Peroz imitation. Interesting find.</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, I wouldn't call these "imitations", the Hepthalites simply made coins similar to what was in circulation near them. Its not an imitation any more than Japanese and Vietnamese cash coins were imitations of Chinese. They are simply similar because in that area of the world that is what money looked like. I would call it a "local issue" more than imitation myself. If it did not have the countermark then I would call it a contemporary imitation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1252039, member: 26302"]Its unusual for them to imitate that ruler, most imitations done by Hepthalites were of Peroz coins. This was because they captured him and as ransom had many donkey loads of Peroz coins given in exchange. Since so much of their money was Peroz coins, that is what they usually copied on their own. I would want to look at that obverse versus Peroz and Hormizd coins to see if they were really copying Hormizd. To me it looks like a Zabulistan issue, as those are usually well worn dies. I have one with the obverse die worn down to the nub by the time it was used, imprinted just a mash on the obverse. Excellent countermark, btw. It is very scarce to get such clear countermarks like that. Great coin! Chris Edit: Looking at it more it sure isn't a Peroz imitation. Interesting find. Btw, I wouldn't call these "imitations", the Hepthalites simply made coins similar to what was in circulation near them. Its not an imitation any more than Japanese and Vietnamese cash coins were imitations of Chinese. They are simply similar because in that area of the world that is what money looked like. I would call it a "local issue" more than imitation myself. If it did not have the countermark then I would call it a contemporary imitation.[/QUOTE]
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