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<p>[QUOTE="C-B-D, post: 1871635, member: 43130"]Today at my local coin show I asked to see a dealer's 2 type coins that were sitting on his bullion coins. One was a 1798 large cent that said XF on the holder. The second was an 1868-S XF seated quarter (key date). The large cent under a loupe was evenly porous but the bust design was flat out different than a true draped bust cent. The facial features were different, Ms. LIBERTY'S head and bust were slightly smaller than it should have been, and there were light, extremely even dentils all around the obverse. The quarter was a better fake. But the eagle didn't have a tongue! And the mintmark looked hand-engraved and funky... not like it should.</p><p><br /></p><p>I told the dealer, "These look funny. The design is off."</p><p>"They're genuine," he replied. "Had em since I was a kid."</p><p><br /></p><p>I thanked him and walked away. But it started to really bug me. Either he didn't know they were fakes or he was lying to make money. So I consulted another dealer about it that I knew personally. He told me I should tell the organizer (also a dealer). So I walked over to him, described the coins and told him which dealer it was.</p><p>His response: "I know you, John, and if you say they're fake then they probably are. But Glenn [the dealer selling the fakes] probably has no clue. Even though that story about having them since he was a kid sounds like bull___. I'll go look at them and tell him to either take them out of his case or mark the holders as counterfeits. Thanks for letting me know. We just can't allow that."</p><p><br /></p><p>I feel like a tattle-tale. I'm not that confrontational. But I could just imagine some collector buying them for $1000+ and then finding out they'd thrown away all that cash. So that makes me feel better about it all.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="C-B-D, post: 1871635, member: 43130"]Today at my local coin show I asked to see a dealer's 2 type coins that were sitting on his bullion coins. One was a 1798 large cent that said XF on the holder. The second was an 1868-S XF seated quarter (key date). The large cent under a loupe was evenly porous but the bust design was flat out different than a true draped bust cent. The facial features were different, Ms. LIBERTY'S head and bust were slightly smaller than it should have been, and there were light, extremely even dentils all around the obverse. The quarter was a better fake. But the eagle didn't have a tongue! And the mintmark looked hand-engraved and funky... not like it should. I told the dealer, "These look funny. The design is off." "They're genuine," he replied. "Had em since I was a kid." I thanked him and walked away. But it started to really bug me. Either he didn't know they were fakes or he was lying to make money. So I consulted another dealer about it that I knew personally. He told me I should tell the organizer (also a dealer). So I walked over to him, described the coins and told him which dealer it was. His response: "I know you, John, and if you say they're fake then they probably are. But Glenn [the dealer selling the fakes] probably has no clue. Even though that story about having them since he was a kid sounds like bull___. I'll go look at them and tell him to either take them out of his case or mark the holders as counterfeits. Thanks for letting me know. We just can't allow that." I feel like a tattle-tale. I'm not that confrontational. But I could just imagine some collector buying them for $1000+ and then finding out they'd thrown away all that cash. So that makes me feel better about it all.[/QUOTE]
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