Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Daniel Jones, May 26, 2020.
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I see nothing that jumps out as fake to me.
But, wait for the real experts to chime in
Do you collect this series? If so, why not tell all of us what you don't like about the coin. Please be specific.
If you don't specialize in this series...
I'll comment on it AFTER IT IS MOVED TO THE WORLD COIN FORUM.
Did a quick search on Heritage website. They haven't sold a coin similar to this one according to their database. If the die maker's son didn't work on the die then it definitely looks tooled.
Not my area of interest though.
This coin is an obvious counterfeit because the little crown above the left pillar (the royal crown) was only used on 8 reales of Mexico city issued from 1732-1754. Starting in 1754, the Mexico city mint changed that crown design to the imperial crown design. Anyone with a book reference can look that up for them self. Also, the little o above the right M is an abnormal shape, no genuine Mexico city mint 8 reales has an o above the right M in that style.
I just received his response earlier today, and did not have time to check Heritage auctions records yet, but I will as soon as I have time.
I just searched Heritage auctions for Lot #64268 under the title of world and ancient coins from Dec. 28, 2017 as the seller provided to me, but Heritage auctions said there are no matches for that item. I reported this counterfeit coin to eBay. Hopefully, eBay will have enough integrity to remove reported bogus products from their site.
I apologize for starting my thread in the wrong category, but I am new to starting threads here despite being a member since July, 2015 and was unfamiliar with this rule, so I will be careful next time if I start another thread.
Not in the least, I didn't "report" it for anything bad, just to get it moved so you could get more responses. I look forward to seeing more of your coins.
the coin that the eBay seller referenced from Heritage.
Thanks to the keen eye of realeswatcher, the picture becomes clearer. He speculates that the coin was tooled to repair chops. If so, shame on the bozo that royally screwed up a nice coin with mostly acceptable damage (many collectors like chopped coins), and shame on the seller trying to pass it off as undamaged.
Is it genuine? PCGS put their certificate on it but I wonder how much time they actually spent on authenticating it once it was determined to be damaged.
Thank you for your keen research skills. I failed to locate that with my searches. I REEEEEALLY do appreciate your time and effort you put into resolving this issue.
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