Counterfeit?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Greg Walbert, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. Greg Walbert

    Greg Walbert New Member

    Very new to ancients. Concerned about raw counterfeits. Can anyone weigh in on this? AR2.png AR1.png
     
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  3. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    Looks real, no signs of counterfeit., Its a Denarius of Hadrian (117-138 CE).
     
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  4. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    Id from wildwinds
    Rome, ca. 119–122. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HA—DRIANVS
    AVG, laureate head of Hadrian right / P M TR P COS III
    around, Salus seated left, feeding snake coiled around
    altar from patera, SAL AVG in exergue. RIC 137.
     
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  5. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    The OP Hadrian looks authentic to me.
     
  6. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Looks like a nice and authentic denarius. I really like that portrait style.
     
  7. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Some additional information about this coin that would be helpful:

    - weight in grams
    - approx. diameter
    - source of coin (name of dealer or party from whom purchased -- if not a private individual)
    - price paid (if this isn't too personal)
     
  8. Greg Walbert

    Greg Walbert New Member

    It's an eBay auction. No details re: size and weight.
     
  9. Greg Walbert

    Greg Walbert New Member

    Thank you for your responses. Having more experienced opinions bolsters my confidence. Priceless!
     
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  10. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Here's a similar coin that sold in an auction about a year ago for about $60 U.S., including buyer's fee:

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    It's my personal opinion that the coin you posted appears to be genuine.

    This is not a rare coin and I would expect that the price for the EBay coin would be similar to the one that I posted above.
     
  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    has all the tell tale signs of being legit...
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Genuine, yes, but I still do not recommend beginners buy coins that they have to ask about here. Either buy from a source you trust or learn enough about the coins that you feel comfortable. I see no reason that this coin would not be a great start for a collection but agree with Ides that it would help to know who is selling it. Known fake sellers should be avoided even if the photos look good.
     
  13. gsimonel

    gsimonel Supporter! Supporter

    While it is often possible to condemn a coin as fake from a photograph, it is never possible to positively verify its authenticity from one. Doug's advice above is wise. If nothing else, at least write to the seller and ask for the size and weight before bidding. If the seller can't provide this information, flee.
     
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  14. That coin looks real. It still has the original style of a hadrian portrait, and there are no other signs of a different die or being cast.
     
  15. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Nice looking coin. I'd buy it if I saw it as a show at a reasonable price. It has the pleasing appearance of a coin that saw considerable use in its day. Imagine all who handled that coin. What things did it buy?
     
  16. Greg Walbert

    Greg Walbert New Member

    18-19 mm 3.2 grams
     
  17. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Weight and size are within normal range for this type of coin.

    If you decide to bid in this EBay auction, you might want to compare prices for similar coins by searching on VCoins.com or CNG's e-auctions (you'll find about five of them). Use the search terms "hadrian denarius sal avg" to find them. Be sure to note the condition of the coins relative to the EBay auction coin and adjust your maximum bid accordingly.
     
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