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<p>[QUOTE="gxseries, post: 2189169, member: 4373"]I can put my fortune on this that higher quality counterfeits are a sign to come and giving more details is an excellent education for counterfeiters to improve their products. You are more than welcome to review this thread 10 years later and see if this makes any sense. Have you not witnessed the rise in quality of counterfeits within the last five years? </p><p><br /></p><p>To illustrate a famous example more than a decade ago with Chinese vase, Ming Dynasty (could have been Qing or Song Dynasty) vases are worth a good fortune. By then, experts already had trouble telling the difference between genuine and counterfeit examples by the color and artwork alone. These were often sent off with experts who have better knowledge of their mineralogy. Experts still found it easy to tell until one of the experts decided to spill the beans and reveal that some vases had kaolin and other specific type of clay minerals and could only be found in certain areas. Obviously counterfeiters didn't fail to pick up that information and now it made the lives of experts a lot harder to tell. </p><p><br /></p><p>With any action, there's always benefits, risks and consequences. The benefit in the short term is that it will educate the general public of such counterfeits. The risk is that within that group of general public, counterfeiters are out there to improve their products. The consequence is in the medium term where much higher quality counterfeits appear to fool the general public. Over the long term, this will make it a lot harder to tell the differences. </p><p><br /></p><p>If I am not wrong five years ago, counterfeits could easily be distinguished if they were a) magnetic b) had mushy details c) wrong weight d) odd color e) terrible edging. In a matter of such short time, all of them have significantly improved. Can you be certain that in the next decade to come, you can confidently tell the differences between counterfeits to genuine examples? Does it have to come to a stage where you must send it to a lab for radioactive dating or mass spectrometry to give experts better confidence? </p><p><br /></p><p>I am against counterfeits and am happy to point out obvious points. However with the rise of such high quality counterfeit, I strongly believe it poses a much higher risk in the long term to point out what is wrong. I for certain will not put my name in aiding counterfeiters to produce better quality 'product'.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="gxseries, post: 2189169, member: 4373"]I can put my fortune on this that higher quality counterfeits are a sign to come and giving more details is an excellent education for counterfeiters to improve their products. You are more than welcome to review this thread 10 years later and see if this makes any sense. Have you not witnessed the rise in quality of counterfeits within the last five years? To illustrate a famous example more than a decade ago with Chinese vase, Ming Dynasty (could have been Qing or Song Dynasty) vases are worth a good fortune. By then, experts already had trouble telling the difference between genuine and counterfeit examples by the color and artwork alone. These were often sent off with experts who have better knowledge of their mineralogy. Experts still found it easy to tell until one of the experts decided to spill the beans and reveal that some vases had kaolin and other specific type of clay minerals and could only be found in certain areas. Obviously counterfeiters didn't fail to pick up that information and now it made the lives of experts a lot harder to tell. With any action, there's always benefits, risks and consequences. The benefit in the short term is that it will educate the general public of such counterfeits. The risk is that within that group of general public, counterfeiters are out there to improve their products. The consequence is in the medium term where much higher quality counterfeits appear to fool the general public. Over the long term, this will make it a lot harder to tell the differences. If I am not wrong five years ago, counterfeits could easily be distinguished if they were a) magnetic b) had mushy details c) wrong weight d) odd color e) terrible edging. In a matter of such short time, all of them have significantly improved. Can you be certain that in the next decade to come, you can confidently tell the differences between counterfeits to genuine examples? Does it have to come to a stage where you must send it to a lab for radioactive dating or mass spectrometry to give experts better confidence? I am against counterfeits and am happy to point out obvious points. However with the rise of such high quality counterfeit, I strongly believe it poses a much higher risk in the long term to point out what is wrong. I for certain will not put my name in aiding counterfeiters to produce better quality 'product'.[/QUOTE]
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