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<p>[QUOTE="DMPL_dingo, post: 2185206, member: 75000"]After reading up on <a href="http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/Chinese-Fake-Morgan-Dollars.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/Chinese-Fake-Morgan-Dollars.htm" rel="nofollow">the fakes coming out of China</a>, I decided to get my hands on one (it was that easy). Here’s a 1879-CC in “UNC” condition. See the images below. The luster was a bit “off” at the high points, particularly on the obverse, but the cartwheel was fully intact. At worst, it looked like a lightly cleaned genuine Morgan to the naked eye. With a bit of pocket wear, it could easily pass for an AU coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>At this point, I’d recommend only buying raw coins from the <i>most reputable</i> of dealers on eBay (I can list them off on one hand), or dealers whom you’ve done repeated business with & developed a rapport. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another option is to stick to slabbed coins on eBay, but apparently they are being counterfeited too….Be cautious of any PCGS/NGC slabbed coins that look off. Have genuine slabs to compare against. Take note of the font details, as well as the plastic raised corners of the PCGS holders in particular.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin has been passed onto the appropriate authorities - please don’t ask questions about its acquisition or the subsequent process of reporting it. I was shocked at the quality of the fake and wished to share it here for informative purposes only.</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>[ATTACH]423748[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423750[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423751[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423752[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423755[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423754[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423753[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423749[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><font size="7">Reverse:</font></b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]423748[/ATTACH] <font size="7">Obverse:</font></b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]423750[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]423753[/ATTACH]</p><p><b><font size="7">Reeds:</font></b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]423752[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="7"><b>Weight & Diameter check out:</b></font>[ATTACH=full]423751[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]423755[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DMPL_dingo, post: 2185206, member: 75000"]After reading up on [URL='http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/Chinese-Fake-Morgan-Dollars.htm']the fakes coming out of China[/URL], I decided to get my hands on one (it was that easy). Here’s a 1879-CC in “UNC” condition. See the images below. The luster was a bit “off” at the high points, particularly on the obverse, but the cartwheel was fully intact. At worst, it looked like a lightly cleaned genuine Morgan to the naked eye. With a bit of pocket wear, it could easily pass for an AU coin. At this point, I’d recommend only buying raw coins from the [I]most reputable[/I] of dealers on eBay (I can list them off on one hand), or dealers whom you’ve done repeated business with & developed a rapport. Another option is to stick to slabbed coins on eBay, but apparently they are being counterfeited too….Be cautious of any PCGS/NGC slabbed coins that look off. Have genuine slabs to compare against. Take note of the font details, as well as the plastic raised corners of the PCGS holders in particular. The coin has been passed onto the appropriate authorities - please don’t ask questions about its acquisition or the subsequent process of reporting it. I was shocked at the quality of the fake and wished to share it here for informative purposes only. [B] [ATTACH]423748[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423750[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423751[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423752[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423755[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423754[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423753[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]423749[/ATTACH] [SIZE=7]Reverse:[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]423748[/ATTACH] [SIZE=7]Obverse:[/SIZE][/B] [ATTACH=full]423750[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]423753[/ATTACH] [B][SIZE=7]Reeds:[/SIZE][/B] [ATTACH=full]423752[/ATTACH] [SIZE=7][B]Weight & Diameter check out:[/B][/SIZE][ATTACH=full]423751[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]423755[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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