Counterfeit Morgan? Double struck, rotated obverse

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by No_Ragrets, Sep 17, 2026 at 9:45 AM.

  1. No_Ragrets

    No_Ragrets Self-proclaimed Semi-Amateur Numismatist Supporter

    I'm fairly sure this is not legit, but I wanted to get more eyes on it before I return it to its owner. 1887 (P) Morgan, double struck, seemingly only on one side which is also rotated. This by itself boggles my mind on how something like that could happen. It's also off in weight slightly at 26.275 grams.

    I've not been able to identify any VAM on it, but it's admittedly difficult on worn down coins. The owner checked it with his Sigma and said it registered as 90% silver, so at least it's got that going for it. But for everything else, it just seems off. With such a clear rotation on the obverse, one would imagine a similar rotation on the reverse, which is only showing mild distortion of some of the devices at best.

    So, what are your thoughts on this one? I'll see if I can get more pictures uploaded since I've got my new laptop, but I'm finding I have a different version of Paint now that doesn't seem to want to let me reduce pixel size and still keep the whole image. For now, these are just pictures of my scope screen and a couple of cropped screenshots. Thanks!
     

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  3. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    Looks off, but I can't find anything definitive yet. I don't like the pit on the rim near the second star. Are the lowest parts of the hair and the inner part of the ear level with the fields? Often the computerized counterfeiting die machines don't get the relief quite right.
     

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