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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jack D. Young, post: 3862506, member: 93371&quot;]Another level of counterfeit early dollars has been hitting the internet and TPG’s over the past several years.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the 1st we saw was an 1802 example from an internet venue back in early 2018. While we were discussing it in a Face Book Group I administer Coin Week also was also reporting it with an NGC article with the same images; apparently it was submitted for certification and kicked back and then attempted to sell raw. Upon further review NGC posted their article on 9/16/2014, so these have been “out there” for a while!</p><p><br /></p><p>The Coin Week article: <a href="https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/counterfeit-coin-detection-1802-draped-bust-silver-dollar/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/counterfeit-coin-detection-1802-draped-bust-silver-dollar/" rel="nofollow">https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/counterfeit-coin-detection-1802-draped-bust-silver-dollar/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Images of the subject 1802:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021819[/ATTACH] </p><p>This “coin” does not match any genuine 1802 variety and has one significant obvious feature we nicknamed the “flattened 1”. The internet listing was removed as a counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Recently an apparent version with the “1801” date has been seen for sale on the internet. Surprisingly the date is similar but different in the thickness of the numerals but it also has a flattened first 1, and the reverse appears to match with several matching marks. Interestingly the 1802 reverse shows some doubling indicative of die bounce while the 1801 shows apparent “die breaks”.</p><p><br /></p><p>Images of the 1801 compared to the 1802 (white indicates common, red non-common marks):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021820[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021821[/ATTACH] </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And like the 1802, this 1801 doesn’t appear to match any genuine variety and the internet listing was also removed as counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>And later last night we saw a similar looking example for sale in the same venue with the date “1799”! This one appears to match another example from last month:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021822[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021823[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This example appears to better match a genuine B-10 1799 draped bust dollar, but there are common “markers” between the two suspect example’s reverses and to the 1801 and 1802 counterfeits!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021824[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021825[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1021827[/ATTACH] </p><p>Always looking for the initial “source” coin/ variety and maybe the group here can help with that!</p><p><br /></p><p>Best,</p><p><br /></p><p>Jack[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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