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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1895783, member: 112"]I just want to make sure that you and other readers understand something. The diagnostics that Matt used and pointed out for this specific coin <u>may or may not </u>be on other fake coins. Other fakes may have similar, but completely different marks in completely different locations, or they may not have any marks like that at all.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What Matt is talking about here is that a genuine coin was used to make the dies that struck this fake, so any mark that was on the genuine coin is going to be on the fake as well. So known genuine diagnostics are often not sufficient for correct identification.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are several different ways to fake coins. Electrotypes and transfer dies are just two of them and they (as well as some others) are briefly explained in the following - </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=78" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=78" rel="nofollow">http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=78</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.pcgs.com/News/The-Fundamentals-Of-Counterfeit-Detection--Part-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/News/The-Fundamentals-Of-Counterfeit-Detection--Part-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgs.com/News/The-Fundamentals-Of-Counterfeit-Detection--Part-1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>But there is another way that fakes can be produced, the dies can be carved by hand. And while this requires an artist of considerable skill there are those who can do it. And with today's technology computers, lasers, even printers, can come into play and make counterfeits that can pass detection by most, and conceptually all.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are many books out there, some old and some new, that have pretty good pictures and list the known diagnostics for some fakes. Any serious collector of gold would be well advised to have and study all of these books. A simple Google search will bring up most if not all of them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1895783, member: 112"]I just want to make sure that you and other readers understand something. The diagnostics that Matt used and pointed out for this specific coin [U]may or may not [/U]be on other fake coins. Other fakes may have similar, but completely different marks in completely different locations, or they may not have any marks like that at all. What Matt is talking about here is that a genuine coin was used to make the dies that struck this fake, so any mark that was on the genuine coin is going to be on the fake as well. So known genuine diagnostics are often not sufficient for correct identification. There are several different ways to fake coins. Electrotypes and transfer dies are just two of them and they (as well as some others) are briefly explained in the following - [url]http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=78[/url] [url]http://www.pcgs.com/News/The-Fundamentals-Of-Counterfeit-Detection--Part-1[/url] But there is another way that fakes can be produced, the dies can be carved by hand. And while this requires an artist of considerable skill there are those who can do it. And with today's technology computers, lasers, even printers, can come into play and make counterfeits that can pass detection by most, and conceptually all. There are many books out there, some old and some new, that have pretty good pictures and list the known diagnostics for some fakes. Any serious collector of gold would be well advised to have and study all of these books. A simple Google search will bring up most if not all of them.[/QUOTE]
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