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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2899392, member: 24314"]ksparrow, posted: "Fivaz was quoting Randy Campbell of ANACS, who I expect has evaluated a large enough sample of raw gold coins to know what he is talking about." </p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">Thanks, I stand corrected and my apologies to Bill Fivaz.</span></b> Some poster failed to mention that Randy Campbell was being quoted. Randy has a little more experience authenticating coins than Mr. Fivaz.</p><p><br /></p><p>So my original post needs to be reworded in this way: </p><p><br /></p><p>While I know and respect Randy Campbell's opinions, IMHO, <b>his percentage is too high.</b> From what I have seen during my professional career, <b><i><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">the actual percentage of "spike" tool marks on genuine coins is less than 1%. </span></i></b></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Trust me on this as the instructor who cited this number and actually "coined" the words "spike tool mark" was authenticating coins professionally over a decade before Mr. Campbell even heard of the things! He has written and used in class an amusing (not at the time) story about calling the first genuine coin with spike tool marks (a Carson City $20) that ANACS authenticators ever saw - COUNTERFEIT! The error was corrected. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">BTW, I was told that episode is when one of the now well-known "rules of coin authentication" originated: "<b>Sooner or later, every characteristic seen on a counterfeit coin can be found on a genuine specimen and every characteristic on a genuine coin can be found on a counterfeit.</b>" </span></p><p><span style="color: inherit"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: inherit">That same instructor originated rule #1. <b>"In order to authenticate a coin, you need to know what the genuine specimen looks like." </b>We learned that this rule came about when the authenticators almost called a well worn genuine Pan Pac Slug counterfeit because it looked like a cast counterfeit. These coins were struck on a medal press and they look completely different than you would expect under a microscope. </span></p><p><span style="color: inherit"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: inherit">I've had some good instructors at seminars! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> PS Randy Campbell is one of them.</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2899392, member: 24314"]ksparrow, posted: "Fivaz was quoting Randy Campbell of ANACS, who I expect has evaluated a large enough sample of raw gold coins to know what he is talking about." [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Thanks, I stand corrected and my apologies to Bill Fivaz.[/COLOR][/B] Some poster failed to mention that Randy Campbell was being quoted. Randy has a little more experience authenticating coins than Mr. Fivaz. So my original post needs to be reworded in this way: While I know and respect Randy Campbell's opinions, IMHO, [B]his percentage is too high.[/B] From what I have seen during my professional career, [B][I][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]the actual percentage of "spike" tool marks on genuine coins is less than 1%. [/COLOR][/I][/B] [COLOR=#000000] Trust me on this as the instructor who cited this number and actually "coined" the words "spike tool mark" was authenticating coins professionally over a decade before Mr. Campbell even heard of the things! He has written and used in class an amusing (not at the time) story about calling the first genuine coin with spike tool marks (a Carson City $20) that ANACS authenticators ever saw - COUNTERFEIT! The error was corrected. BTW, I was told that episode is when one of the now well-known "rules of coin authentication" originated: "[B]Sooner or later, every characteristic seen on a counterfeit coin can be found on a genuine specimen and every characteristic on a genuine coin can be found on a counterfeit.[/B]" [/COLOR] [COLOR=inherit] That same instructor originated rule #1. [B]"In order to authenticate a coin, you need to know what the genuine specimen looks like." [/B]We learned that this rule came about when the authenticators almost called a well worn genuine Pan Pac Slug counterfeit because it looked like a cast counterfeit. These coins were struck on a medal press and they look completely different than you would expect under a microscope. I've had some good instructors at seminars! :D PS Randy Campbell is one of them.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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