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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;MIGuy, post: 24857296, member: 116145&quot;]I bought a raw 1694 Elephant Token from an apparently reputable seller on eBay in Ireland for a fair price - 721 Euros and change.&nbsp; I was excited to finally have one for my Colonial set, I posted pictures here and immediately dispatched it to NGC via standard submission upon receipt.&nbsp; I did think it might have been cleaned.&nbsp; Long story short, it was fake.&nbsp; What has really been a downer is, not only am I out the money (no refunds after 30 days per eBay policy - turnaround at NGC was 8 weeks - it took them 4 weeks before they processed it / opened the package) but that the seller is now selling what is very likely another expensive fake as &quot;genuine&quot; right now.&nbsp; My courteous emails to eBay customer service are so far met with kind of a boilerplate response to work it out with the seller and that it was outside of the 30 day window.&nbsp; They did initially indicate that I might consider filing a complaint with the proper authorities, but I&#039;m not sure who they are, and my requests for elaboration and the information on the seller (I only know his first name, &quot;Stirling&quot;)&nbsp; to provide the authorities, have been met with radio silence.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t retain the packaging I received the token in.&nbsp; I am also unable to file my honest feedback with regard to my transaction as eBay has blocked that on this transaction for some reason - which is just an invitation for bad sellers to continue selling fakes IMO.</p><p><br /></p><p>While I&#039;m not going to stop buying on eBay, as I&#039;ve mostly had great luck there using my normal caution for the last 20 years, I am really disappointed in how this one turned out - I&#039;ve got a fake, the seller has my money and the seller is continuing to sell on eBay, apparently without any consequences.</p><p><br /></p><p>In any case - given my experience with this seller, as described, I&#039;d steer clear of this: </p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/256338232856?hash=item3baef30618:g:RyMAAOSwz1hlZ4s8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/256338232856?hash=item3baef30618:g:RyMAAOSwz1hlZ4s8" rel="nofollow">1951 South Africa Penny coin - 2000 minted only - PROOF - EXT EXT RARE - #PA47</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/256338232856?hash=item3baef30618:g:RyMAAOSwz1hlZ4s8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/256338232856?hash=item3baef30618:g:RyMAAOSwz1hlZ4s8" rel="nofollow">Opens in a new window or tab</a></p><p>$1,207.09</p><p>irishcoinsandstuff2012 (1,382) 99.9%</p><p>or Best Offer</p><p>+$4.17 shipping</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s a picture of the counterfeit Elephant Token I purchased from this seller. (note I also paid NGC extra for the enhanced photos, lol). </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1593593[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1593594[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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