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<p>[QUOTE="Bedford, post: 412937, member: 4917"]<b>coin of the day 8-11-08</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Today we have a very deceptive 1912 $5 Gold Indian-</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin was produced from a transfered die.</p><p><br /></p><p>A transfer die counterfeit is made by creating dies by directly transferring the design from the original coin. This is done by striking the coin with great froce, and destroying it in the process, with a soft type metal die. They can can be quite deceptive, if the counterfitte takes care in making the dies. </p><p><br /></p><p>If all the details of the original coin get transferred to the die, so will the defects from the original, such as contact marks. These will show up as depressions on all of the counterfeit coins made from this die. Unlike those on genuine coins, these marks will have the same look or surface qualities as the surrounding areas of the coin. Which sould not be the case if it were an impact spot or such.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are a few spots on the coin where the counter fitter either tried to clean the coin up a bit or was just careless & left die gouges in the incused neck line . There is also another spike that I couldnt get a good close up of just below the bonnet but I did point an arrow to it on the main picture.</p><p>The coin has some weak areas that I have circled ,most likely from the damage cause by the impact on the original coin as thats where the major point of contact force would have been applied.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bedford, post: 412937, member: 4917"][b]coin of the day 8-11-08[/b] Today we have a very deceptive 1912 $5 Gold Indian- This coin was produced from a transfered die. A transfer die counterfeit is made by creating dies by directly transferring the design from the original coin. This is done by striking the coin with great froce, and destroying it in the process, with a soft type metal die. They can can be quite deceptive, if the counterfitte takes care in making the dies. If all the details of the original coin get transferred to the die, so will the defects from the original, such as contact marks. These will show up as depressions on all of the counterfeit coins made from this die. Unlike those on genuine coins, these marks will have the same look or surface qualities as the surrounding areas of the coin. Which sould not be the case if it were an impact spot or such. There are a few spots on the coin where the counter fitter either tried to clean the coin up a bit or was just careless & left die gouges in the incused neck line . There is also another spike that I couldnt get a good close up of just below the bonnet but I did point an arrow to it on the main picture. The coin has some weak areas that I have circled ,most likely from the damage cause by the impact on the original coin as thats where the major point of contact force would have been applied.[/QUOTE]
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