According to one "expert", virtually all U.S. gold issues have been extensively forged... in one case, 114 examples of a 1916-S ten dollar gold piece were gathered at random from collections across the U.S. and examined by one professional authenticator; sixty-four turned out to be fake. That's 56% of just one issue. The alloys are correct and the dies are near perfect and getting better (with laser technology replacing EDM technology). Does anyone believe there will come a time when even an expert can't tell the difference between real and fake?
I'm late to the thread again, but I have seen that SVDB type a few times. If you cannot tell thats a fake, you have no biz buying them raw, and should buy books before you spend another dime on your cent collection. Good post Budgood
For your viewing pleasure, this "1865" SL Dollar: http://cgi.ebay.com/Seated-Liberty-...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:10|39:1|240:1318 Check out the date.
Many $2.50 and $5 Indian's were made in Lebanon during the 1960's. These were mainly made to circumvent the gold importing restrictions the US had at the time. These and others can sometimes be found by lightly rubbing the edge of the coin (between the rim and the reeds on the edge). If there is a sharp wire rim, it is likely fake. If you know this trick, you can tell these fakes in the dark!
This is a total joke: http://cgi.ebay.com/1914-D-Lincoln-Cent-XF-AU-KEY_W0QQitemZ120385357668 AJ & RLM should get a laugh out of that one! Ribbit Ps: Will a Lincoln expert please message the seller and explain to them why it is not authentic. :thumb: I'm not an expert on these so I'd prefer to let someone handle this that can handle it.
Can someone tell me who L. Berty is? Their name is on the left side of the front of that cent. Are they that big in real life?
I figured there'd be a few members here that will enjoy this 1909-S VDB Lincoln: http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-S-V-D-B-LINCOLN-WHEAT-REVERSE-PENNY-LOT-6_W0QQitemZ270353813917 That seller has sold other counterfeits before so they either don't know their stuff or . . . . Ribbit
Well, I dont know if anyone reported it but I sent the seller a friendly message telling him it was a counterfiet. He replied Thanks for the info. When I checked the listing has been ended so I wonder if it was the seller or Ebay who ended it ?.
If eBay had ended it, you would see a statement that the listing could not be found and no further info. If the seller had ended it, the listing would still be there (for 90? days).
If you can tell me what to tell him, I will. It looks authentic to me. Absolutely mangled, but authentic.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1804-CENT-VF-CO...ryZ11947QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I'm surprised why people pay so much for a counterfeit cent ...
If it were a good one, I'd see paying that much for it but that one is pathetic! :goof: The only thing I can figure is there are bidiots out there that know nothing about coins, except they can read and own a Red Book, and they bid on these hoping they are actually real. :goofer: Ribbit
I'm not sure about gold , but imagine it would stick to it like it did to Morgan dollars when I was a kid , of course we kinda rubbed it in with our fingers :stooge:, which of course we now know is poisonous :headbang:, but it sure made them look purty to our 7 year old eyes , maybe one of our resident chemistry majors will chime in , if not start a different thread . rzage:thumb:
This is an amazing series. Budgood - you say you buy these to get them off the market. Do you pay the high prices that a rare coin is worth or get them cheap? I do see many darn chi coins on thebay, they say COPY but when you receive them, copy is nowhere stamped on... I bought some to see what counterfeits look like. Amazing. They will even counterfeit COMMON coins!
Hook, Line & Sinker After about a hour and a half on being on this site I have learned a lot and one of the things I learned is to take a MAGNET with me next time. It was only a $80 Bite out of my budget but O' Well. Live and Learn :headbang: http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...ro1/coin1H.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...ro1/coin1T.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...ro1/coin2H.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...ro1/coin2T.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...o1/coin12H.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...o1/coin12T.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...o1/coin1eg.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...o1/coin2eg.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...ro1/coin12.jpg
So just about 1 year later I have decided to Necropost this thread. Just in case any one new would like to run through these pictures. They can be quite helpful. Here is another counterfiet - 1921 Walking Liberty Half- Besides the overall look of the strike being very weak the main tell tail signs on this piece are- The lettering is not up to par with what an authentic piece should look like. The 2 in the date is mis-shapen & the motto & E Pluribus Unum are out of form. Although not pictured in a close up the designers initials look to have been added as an after thought.