Counterfeit 1909-S VDB

I'll take that bet. I heard a story like this at an ANA Summer Seminar. The instructor, an authenticator with ANACS told us that to his knowledge, the last person to claim that he could have a perfect counterfeit made was Mr. Virgil "Hancock." Sure enough, after a few months Virgil brought a counterfeit to ANACS. It was a beautiful PL specimen of a medal he had copied. Unfortunately, within five seconds using the stereo microscope, our instructor explained that the surface of the fake looked like swiss cheese! The fake piece was not deceptive at all. Bet over.

Now, Mr. Carr is heads above whomever made that fake; however, Carrs products do not even come close to US Mint quality of our vintage coins. I have a few of them.

Now, better yet. If DC would actually try to reproduce an item just to prove he can produce the relief, luster, and metal flow of a vintage coin, that should make a great experiment as even the US Mint - lets use the gold dime as an example - cannot produce a coin that comes close to a BU 1916 specimen when it is examined under magnification. That's a fact!

 

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The Swiss cheese look is gonna be the new wall Texture I invent.
I already thought about it earlier
Lol.

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I'd like to add my novice 2 cents (see what I did here) to this conversation. On the post the OP shows of the 1909 S VBD, I have no knowledge of the real mint mark location or the serifs (I don't collect Lincolns), but isn't just looking at the wear in that obviously a huge red flag? The 'S' looks like it has no wear compared to the date and the coin in general. That's not a good sign.

On the topic of 3D printing, I don't think I know of a technology to print copper at micron resolution. It could exist, they do have some crazy printing abilities in research settings. I could learn more from some material science friends maybe. And even if one could 3-D print a coin, I do think it would look obviously wrong. It seems very hard to simulate time and wear. 3-D printing just seems like the wrong way to make/fake a coin based on what I know about 3-D printing.

 

That's a good thought and happens to be correct. Many times there is a difference in the surface of the Mint mark and the field surrounding it. Many times there is a dark crevice at the base of the mint mark where it is not completely attached. I wish I could add more...

Still, the shape of the "S" is your best bet.

 

I noticed the lack of serifs right away. Dead giveaway!