Counterclash on a 1973 D Lincoln Cent?

Is the subject line the proper term for this type of error? The letters "E. Pluribus" are stamped concave and rotated left , beneath the original stamping.

 

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Now that's interesting. You are going to get a lot of responses on this one. From PMD - Post Mint Damage to Vise job.

It kind of looks like some type of Struck Through. Maybe a piece from another Cent that created that crater like area then detached. But I'm not positive on my description.

 

I see no rim indentations suggesting vice job. Looks like a strike through grease but im not sure how the lettering ended up in it

 

It can't be a vise job because the lettering would be backwards. Could it be a "Dropped Element" wherein a large piece of a grease-filled die covered the field and letters before falling onto the next planchet?

Chris

 

Very interesting for sure. Might as well get @mikediamond in on it but I think you hit the nail on the head chris

 

Looks like a lamination on this one !

 

That certainly is cool whatever it is. Nice find Zimmer.

 

I looked at the maddieclashes.com glossary and didn't see that term.

 

Definatly not a lam. Think about it, how did those letters get stuck at that area if it was a lamination. If it's a rotated double strike where is everything else?... I'm 99% confident mike will call this a dropped element strikethrough just like chris said. It's like a dropped letter only much bigger

 

Gosh dangit. I'm getting obsessed with this one. It looks like it is sunk in, is that right? It is like a perfect chip from another cent was in the way when it got struck.

 

I was wrong !

 

Whoa and it sure looks like the "D" in United and the "S" in States have some serif splitting going on.

 

Still researching this. Possibly a Type II Counterclash?

"Type II Counterclashes trace their origin to a stray piece of hard metal that invades the striking chamber.die fragment, a piece of the collar, a piece of hardware like a bolt or washer, a broken-off machine part, or just about anything else one can imagine." (http://www.error-ref.com/counterclash-type-ii/)

 

Even a semi-smart vice operator could figure out how to avoid rim issues - jess sayin'...

 

I work with vices everyday in my job. I've even squeezed some lincolns together myself, for fun that is. Now i would be very interested in seeing cents that you yourself have squeezed in a vice that show no signs of rim indentations, you know, to further my education in vices

However i do realize rim indentations arent the only sign of a vice job, but it is the first thing i look for when a coin is suspect of such a practice.

 

That may be. but have you ever had occasion to notice Article 11 the Treaty of Tripoli?

Sorry pal, I am not a coin squeezer. But as a thought exercise to expand your mind consider compressing only coin parts as opposed to entire coins.

 

Ah, well i believe you are referring to a thread that is now locked. But next time youre in Colorado, let me know. We can go have a drink over the subject

However that doesnt pertain to the topic of this thread. Either way OP's coin wasnt squeezed with a vice.

 

Consider my mind expanded. Very interesting thought.

 

The "error" concave image is below the final stamp. No way to achieve this in a vise.

 

It would be recessed if it was the result of a Dropped Element. If it was a "chip" from another coin, the letters would be backwards

What would prevent someone from reaming off the entire rim of a coin from obverse to reverse to prevent damage to the rim on the other coin used in a vise job?

Chris