Could this be... a 1922 high relief Peace Dollar?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by GeorgeM, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You really did not read the article that says there basically aren't any.
    There is 1 known and 11 matte proofs.
    1922 was a common year there are no odds. It's zero.
    The high relief stands out like a sore thumb.
    Take a look at this video, there is a beautiful 1922 high relief in it,
    and the differences are unmistakable. You can see that this is the real thing.
    A matte Proof-61. Pawn Stars is BS but this coin is real.
    There really aren't any high relief business strike 1922's (1). If you want to
    delude yourself, whatever.
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No, not a snowballs chance in ....
     
  4. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to figure out the coin I'm holding in my hands. Thanks for not reading my post but replying anyway. I also appreciate that [insert other unfounded assumptions here].
     
  5. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    No, what?

    I'm trying to figure out why this coin has the particular attribute (& none of the 6 or so others) of a high relief. Yes, I've compared it to a high relief.

    Have you had a chance to look at the long ray I'm highlighting and compare it to a low relief 1922?
     
  6. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    It’s time for you to send the coin to a grading service if you believe it’s high relief.
     
  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    No to "could it be a polished (or otherwise modified) high relief" which was your question.

    I have 1921s and 1922s amongst other years.
    It *can* be totally confusing. But once you compare a REAL high relief to a normal you'll understand the difference irregardless of rays and things as those can be really confusing.

    You need to send it in to PCGS or ANACS and discuss with them your concept.
     
  8. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Please stop with this unhelpful "GFO" of a comment. I am trying to figure out what would cause a coin to have one of the diagnostics but no others.
     
  9. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I will make any comment I choose. If you don’t like it, get off the site and stay off.
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    When trying to authenticate a coin based on "diagnostics" it must have all or at least most all, such all except 1 missing. On regular coins, missing one maybe due to different die stages being used on large numbers of the issue, but with this small number struck, there should not be such a difference. IMO, Jim
     
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  11. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Someone calls you out on the unhelpfulness of your comment & you tell them to leave the site? Cool. See you next Tuesday.
     
  12. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    That makes sense. The all or nothing rule of thumb is also handy for weeding out counterfeits of rare coins.

    But, whenever a coin that's clearly genuine has unusual features, it makes me wonder if there's something else going on. For example:
    https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/second-1916-quarter-pattern-attributed.html
     
  13. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Time for another bump.

    Does anyone else have a 1922 with a long ray?
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I ran across this thread again and wondered "What about the possibility of a low relief obv muled with a high relief rev?" So I started looking to see if there was anything the high relief rev had that this coin did not. I ran into two things. On the high relief reverse the ray by the right corner of the E in ONE is also very long ending above the left upright of the N. That is NOT the case with the OP coin. It ends just a little left of the right upright. And then I noticed that this is NOT a 1922 Peace dollar! It is a 22 S. Still leaves me scratching my head about why the apparent long ray through the N, but it really makes it unlikely this is a high relief rev.
     
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  15. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Go to the VAMWorld site and see if there are any. BTW: the person who maintains that site already gave you his opinion in post 10

    The "long ray" looks rather indistinct as others have pointed out. To say it matches the diagnostic for a high relief is a big stretch IMO.

    You can keep wishing and bumping, but I think you've receive posts from some very knowledgeable specialists. If you don't agree, send it in. Continually bumping your thread until you get the answer you want isn't going to work
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a chance it's a high, on either side.
     
  17. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Of course bumping something to get different results is a waste of time. That's not what I'm trying to do, and perhaps you're misreading my intent. Only a tiny portion of even the members active on this site have seen (much less responded) to this thread. I'm not trying to change anyone's firmly set mind.

    Since I still don't see anything like it on the VAM list, I'm looking to see if anyone has a similar long ray 1922.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not 22, 22-S.
     
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