Could this be... a 1922 high relief Peace Dollar?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by GeorgeM, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I've been checking 1922 Peace Dollars for the tell-tale ray that extends past the N (on the reverse in "One Dollar") & think I finally found one. Could this be the ever elusive 1922 high relief?


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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I can't tell a thing from your images and the dirty coin.

  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I think I see what you’re referring to. If I’m on target, it appears there is a normal ray line and something that is parallel just beyond it.
  5. alurid

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  6. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Yes, I'm aware this would be the cull bin find of my life if it is what I'm suggesting it could be. The diagnostics in the Cherry Pickers guide are less than 100% clear/helpful, so I'm looking for additional things to check.

    I was unaware of the "medium relief" coins. Interesting.

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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  8. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    And your reasoning is...?
  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    Have you compared it to a 1921 high relief?
  10. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    Go to the SEARCH box in right side top and enter 1922 high relief peace dollar and in the by: Desertgem

    and then you will have a list of former threads and info on comparisons.

  11. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    No. It's not high relief. Take a look at PCGS CoinFacts for examples of the 1922 high relief. Totally different design, especially the lower reverse.
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Key feature I look at is the spike just to the right of the E in LIBERTY. (this feature separates the high form the low relief, it doesn't differentiate the high from the medium)
    Yours is the low relief.
  13. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I see what you're saying that the spike on the obverse of a high-relief design should stop at the lower leg of the E, while the low-relief design has a taller spike (as my coin does). However, do you see the sun ray on the reverse that terminates even with the N on the low relief design, yet continues quite noticeably on the high relief design? It appears that my coin has that longer ray, which is what caught my eye.

    Where there transitional dies as they switched from the high relief to low relief? Or any known instances of a high relief reverse being paired with a low relief obverse?

    If the concern was that producing the high relief coins was too expensive, it seems quite odd that the mint would choose to produce 35k of the trickier design, then melt them all (incurring more costs) and throw away the dies instead of releasing the trial pieces into circulation and using the dies until they failed.
  14. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I took an additional picture.
    This could be a die crack, but it sure is oddly placed considering that it's a diagnostic for the high relief variety. 20191210_182319.jpg
  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Why your 1922 Peace dollar is probably not worth 100K:
    Only 35,401 “High Relief” business strike Peace Dollars were produced in 1922, but all were melted. Well, almost all. One is known to exist. A couple of dozen Matte Proof high relief 1922 Peace Dollars were also struck, and of these about 11 are known to exist.

    So yeah, there's a chance. But, In 1922 Philly they struck 51 million coins,
    so the odds are it's one of those.
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    You always use the statistical approach, and never the diagnostic approach. That isn’t helpful
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  17. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Sure, that's the odds. But, statistics break down when you look at particulars. It's like telling me I'm driving a Toyota Camry when I post a picture of a 2010 Alfa Romeo because more Camrys were sold that year.
  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    That comparison has nothing to do with what I posted.
    There basically aren't any 22 high reliefs, and there are over 50 million regulars.
  19. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Aren't you forgetting the 35k business strikes that were made before the low relief design went into production?
  20. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Bumping this again. While my coin lacks the other diagnostics, is there a die pairing that has this particular feature on a low relief 1922? Could it be a polished (or otherwise modified) high relief die?
  21. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    have you compared it to a 1921 High Relief yet?
    ONCE you have done that it will dawn on your the totally different aspects of the two coins.

    You can always send it in to PCGS or ANACS etc and discuss it with them.
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