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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1875568, member: 112&quot;]I think they are as loose or worse they were. Over the years it&#039;s proven to be a progressive standard, getting more and more loose as the years pass.</p><p><br /></p><p>But do you understand why the first satin coins were nicer ? Money, it cost money to produce dies. With the satin coins the mint soon discovered a lesson they had learned many years ago with Proofs. That being that if they wanted the desired finish, they had to use more dies because the satin finish wore off quickly - just like the cameo finish does. That caused them to spend more money than they wanted to on dies. So in succeeding years they began striking more coins with each die set, that caused more lower quality satin coins to be produced.</p><p><br /></p><p>The mints goal is not to produce the highest quality coins they can, they are a business and their goal is to make money.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of folks try to use the reasoning that the explanation for all the higher grade coins from the TPGs&nbsp; in recent years is because the mint has done something miraculous and started producing higher quality coins. They choose to believe that explanation because they don&#039;t want to believe the other one - that the TPGs have merely loosened their standards. The lower quality satin coins after the first year, pretty much proves that the former explanation is not correct, and the latter is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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