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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3154882, member: 112"]I suspect the answer to your question is going to be one of those situations where the answer depends on whom you ask.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, I did a quick search on Montenuovo-2715. It brings up results where the same item, minted in the same metal, is cataloged as a coin, a token, and a medal by separate catalogers. And even when the same item was minted in different metals, same result. And the TPGs, same item, but if it's minted in a different metal, they use a different name. For example, in gold it's a medal, but in silver it's a token. There simply is no rhyme or reason in that. It's as if they're even more confused than we are !</p><p><br /></p><p>It's an issue I've posted about numerous times regarding numerous different subjects - definitions. It as if people don't know what to call something or what the actual proper word is to use so they call things what they "think" they are. In other words they apply personal interpretations of definitions as opposed to standard dictionary definitions because their personal definition suits their purpose at the time. And it's not just ordinary people that do this, TPGs do it, catalogers do it, recognized numismatists do it. Basically it seems like everybody does it.</p><p><br /></p><p>All in all it makes for a very confusing situation. One that results in people like you asking the very questions you are asking. There are so many different examples of this happening that it's really become quite a mess. Think of the age old debate, between recognized "experts" mind you, of the difference between a variety and an error. </p><p><br /></p><p>If they can't even settle that, well they're never gonna settle something like this ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3154882, member: 112"]I suspect the answer to your question is going to be one of those situations where the answer depends on whom you ask. For example, I did a quick search on Montenuovo-2715. It brings up results where the same item, minted in the same metal, is cataloged as a coin, a token, and a medal by separate catalogers. And even when the same item was minted in different metals, same result. And the TPGs, same item, but if it's minted in a different metal, they use a different name. For example, in gold it's a medal, but in silver it's a token. There simply is no rhyme or reason in that. It's as if they're even more confused than we are ! It's an issue I've posted about numerous times regarding numerous different subjects - definitions. It as if people don't know what to call something or what the actual proper word is to use so they call things what they "think" they are. In other words they apply personal interpretations of definitions as opposed to standard dictionary definitions because their personal definition suits their purpose at the time. And it's not just ordinary people that do this, TPGs do it, catalogers do it, recognized numismatists do it. Basically it seems like everybody does it. All in all it makes for a very confusing situation. One that results in people like you asking the very questions you are asking. There are so many different examples of this happening that it's really become quite a mess. Think of the age old debate, between recognized "experts" mind you, of the difference between a variety and an error. If they can't even settle that, well they're never gonna settle something like this ![/QUOTE]
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