Corinthian stater help needed

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Salm, Jul 22, 2017.

  1. Salm

    Salm New Member

    Hi guys, im looking to buy this stater. But have doubts bout its genuinity. The seller is asking 400 pounds for it. Does this look genuine? Should i go ahead? Thanks in advance.
     

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  3. Salm

    Salm New Member

    P.S. The blue staining is supposedly some dye he spilled on it and is washable.
     
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Welcome to CoinTalk, @Salm :)

    No, I do not think you should buy this coin. Authenticity is difficult to determine from photos. Unless there are obvious signs of casting or unless it matches known fakes, it can be impossible to determine authenticity from a photo. However, in-focus images are a good start and this seller doesn't provide those.

    It would also behoove the seller to soak that coin in alcohol or whatever is required to remove the applied ink or dye.

    Corinth staters are plentiful and for £400 or less you will be able to find a very nice example from a seller who guarantees authenticity. Have you browsed various non-eBay auctions? Try searching on this auction aggregator site: https://www.numisbids.com/

    If you are impatient or don't want to bother with auctions, most of the sellers on Vcoins are reputable and all offer a guarantee of authenticity. I see 111 Corinth staters for sale there right now. If it's just the Pegasus/Athena imagery you're after, you can widen the search to include similar staters of Akarnania, Bruttium, Illyria, Leukas, and Syracuse. Here's a thorough website about this style of ancient coin: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/corinthstaters/i.html

    Also, this post would get more attention on the Ancients board.
     
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  5. Salm

    Salm New Member

    Thank you. Will put this thread on ancient coins forum as suggested.
     
  6. Salm

    Salm New Member

    Hi guys, im looking to buy this stater. But have doubts bout its genuinity. The seller is asking 400 pounds for it. Does this look genuine? Should i go ahead? Thanks in advance.
    The blue staining is supposedly some dye he spilled and is washable.

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  7. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't buy it based on those pictures. Looks like there's a casting seam. Also who spills blue dye on a coin and says it's washable but doesn't wash it off themselves... I don't understand some people.
    Edit: That was weird there were no comments on this when I posted but now it's saying there was some from 5 in the morning.
     
  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The OP first posted this question on Coin Chat, where I answered. I suggested it belonged on the Ancients board (but didn't click report to make it happen... oops). When the OP made a second post here, I then reported it and the two were combined and the Coin Chat thread deleted.

    (next time I'll just click "report" right away to effect the change)
     
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  9. Salm

    Salm New Member

    Thanks a lot guys. Ul saved me quite a few bucks. Was almost fooled by the beautiful coin. Genuine staters are not supposed to have the casting seam then right?
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Right.
     
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  11. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    This is a very wise advice, do listen and follow:you won't be sorry !there is plenty of other opportunities.
     
  12. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Welcome to CoinTalk!

    Hang around here and you will learn a lot.

    Ask for advice before buying anything expensive.

    I second the vcoins recommendation, go check them out.

    John
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    You got the right advice above. Welcome to CT Ancients @Salm
     
  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    @Salm, I suggest you look at auctions listed on consolidator sites like
    https://sixbid.com/
    which list many upcoming ancient-coin auctions. The site is searchable for, say "Corinth". You will find that 400 pounds can get you a very nice genuine coin. You will need to register in advance to bid, so be sure to register a couple days in advance to give them time to approve you.
    Of course, many CoinTalk members buy fixed-price coins from vcoins
    https://www.vcoins.com/en/coins/ancient-2.aspx
    and from MA-Shops
    https://www.ma-shops.de/antike/index.php5?lang=en
    where the coins will be genuine.
    A list of dealers is here:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/dealers.html

    I maintain that site and I have not been contacted with negative information about any of those sellers (but some have prices I consider too high).
     
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  15. Salm

    Salm New Member

    @Michael. The die match of known fake proves beyond doubt its a fake. Thank you.
     
  16. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Dodged a bullet.

    Stick to the reputable dealers until you have lots of experience.
     
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