Copper Token Conservation?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by fretboard, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:53 AM.

  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I have this White Negress token from England and it has some funk on the reverse, I think it might be glue but I'm not certain what it is. Also, at around 5 o'clock on the reverse, it looks like there may be some rust starting to come to fruition. I've tried distilled water, acetone, and MS70 all to no avail, I even tried Verdi-Care just for good measure. :D I mean it looks a little better than before but definitely not good enough. I'm thinking about trying Mint State Restoration, there's pics below of the Token and the MSR. Has anyone tried this MSR on such a project, any suggestions? Comments appreciated! :D

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  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    I soak old coppers in Virgin Olive oil, some for a day, some for a week and realy bad ones upto a year.
    When I say old coppers I mean anything from 150 years old back to Roman and metal detected artifacts.

    I bought some Verdi-Care several years ago, it did not work for me.
     
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  4. Sallent

    Sallent Supporter! Supporter

    Verdicare is not really meant to clean coins. What Verdicare does is dissolve the salts that cause BD. It also forms a thin layer to protect coins from getting BD. I use it for my ancient bronze coins for that purpose. If you are using it for another purpose, you are wasting your money.
     
  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I haven’t, but my efforts stop at distilled water and acetone soaks.
     
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  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think you have surface corrosion on the coin and I would say there is no way to remove it because it is already into the surface of the metal.

    I would be rather suspicious of the "Mint State Restoration" stuff. You have no clue what is in it or what it might do. You might try it on a couple common modern copper coins of little or no value.
     
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  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yeah, I thought the same thing after I was able to see the rusty corrosion on it but I still had to look into it. Oh well, I can't win all the time but I try. :D Here's the WN token I sold a month ago or so. Yeah, it's a sad story she lived, circus sideshow and all, that's crazy and cruel but way before anyone in London or the US had any sense. :D

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  9. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    No slave did well in the circus. Disabled people performing as freaks frequently lived to do very well. Look up the original Siamese Twins. As to removing tarnish SOMETIMES you can place a tarnished coin or token in a slit in a potato and leave it there for a week or so. If it helps try it again. Hopefully no one needs to be told to not eat the potato.
     
  10. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I like Dichloromethane personally to get rid of the green.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Found a little info on MSR, comment on an ancient forum.

    "Much to our doubts...it worked exactly as described. After two days of soaking and swirling the MSR liquid in the nest, we discovered that all the encrustations had been removed (including the original patina, sad to say....)"
     
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