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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1396068, member: 112&quot;]As we have discussed before Lance, I&#039;m well aware that they exist. The question however is this - have all of those coins been &quot;Red&quot; from the time they were minted ?</p><p><br /></p><p>The answer is - no, they have not. That means at some point in time at least some, and perhaps many, of those older &quot;Red&quot; and even &quot;Red Brown&quot; copper coins have been dipped at some point in their life to make them, &quot;Red&quot; once again. I&#039;m not saying all of them have been dipped, but it is logical and reasonable that a certain number of them have been dipped.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why ? Because of what we know to be factual.</p><p><br /></p><p>1 - copper is the most reactive of our coinage metals. Like all coins, copper coins begin toning the instant after they are struck. But because copper is the most reactive of our coinage metals, the copper coins tone much faster than the other coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>2 - until recent years collectors had no means or methods to prevent or even slow down the toning process.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. - until recent years the most commonly used storage methods (depending on date ranges) for coins were paper envelopes, coin albums and folders, and before those coin cabinets. None of these methods did anything to retard or slow down toning. In fact, all of them actually induced toning and speeded it up, especially with copper coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now knowing these things, and they are not opinions, is it reasonable and logical to think that older copper coins exists in large numbers in &quot;Red&#039; and/or &quot;Red Brown&quot; ?</p><p><br /></p><p>No, it is not.</p><p><br /></p><p>And yes I am well aware that people claim that you cannot dip copper without it being noticeable. Well, that is simply not true. You can dip copper, and nobody will ever know or even suspect. You just have to know how to do it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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