Copper Dime Found

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  1. McGregor88

    McGregor88 New Member

    I found this 1973 D Copper Dime yesterday. When I did a google search I found that someone else also found the exact coin and posted about it a few years ago. I’m therefore inclined to believe this was mint error. Thoughts anyone?
     

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Not a mint error. Environmental damage.
     
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  4. Idries Pappas

    Idries Pappas Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking environmental damage.
     
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  5. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    I find dimes like that all of the time metal detecting. I don't think this is a copper dime.
     
  6. McGregor88

    McGregor88 New Member

    I think the nickel clad step was missed somehow at the mint. Look at the difference in thickness. Only the copper is there. Someone else found the exact same 1973D like this a few years ago so I strongly believe mint error.
     
  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    who found it?
    was it slabbed /certified ?
    link ?
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    metal detecting find, I get them all the time.

    technical term?

    Spare change
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The one on the right has a top layer of 75% copper. The one on the LEFT has a top layer of ...
    ...
    ...
    75% copper.
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You can weigh it. If it is ULTRA light, it's missing BOTH clad layers.
    Generally only 1 clad layer will be missing. I can see areas of clad/ nickel silver through the oxidation on your coin.
    Environmental damage. I have over 3000 dimes in my garage from metal detecting, and probably a couple hundred like this.
    The copper would be much more copper colored and flat.
    Yours is way too shiny. Weigh it is a good first test. Clad dimes weigh 2.27 grams.
    If it were missing both clad layers, prob be very light, 1 something.
     
  11. McGregor88

    McGregor88 New Member

    The composition should be 91.67% copper and 8.33% nickel. This coin is 100% copper.
     
  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    No, the outer layers are 75% copper and 25% nickel. Trust me on this. Please? So is yours. Again, trust me, I know. That’s three arguments from OP. I’m done.
     
  13. McGregor88

    McGregor88 New Member

    Would love to see some of your dimes like this. Can you post some photos?
     
  14. McGregor88

    McGregor88 New Member

  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    can you show the XRF analysis screen for confirmation ?
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Tim?
    Is that you?
     
  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    For those who didn’t read the thread in General Discussion, this TYPE of thread is, according to Doug, the number one reason experienced collectors leave CoinTalk.
     
  18. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    I'd have to say environmental damage as well. You can't tell composition based on appearance. Looking like it's pure copper isn't diagnostic.

    Having said that, if you believe that strongly that it's a mint error despite the expert opinions that have been offered to you here, I encourage you to submit it to either PCGS or NGC for error attribution.
     
  19. McGregor88

    McGregor88 New Member

    The weight of a normal 1973 D Roosevelt Dime should be 2.27g according to this:
    https://www.usacoinbook.com/coins/1621/dimes/roosevelt/1973-D/

    Nickel weighs almost the same as copper, just slightly less. A cubic foot of copper weighs 559.87 pounds, where as a cubic foot of nickel weighs 555.72 pounds.
    http://www.coyotesteel.com/assets/img/PDFs/weightspercubicfoot.pdf

    Since the total composition is 91.67% copper and 8.33% nickel, if the entire nickel composition only is missing, the weight of this dime should be:

    2.27 - (2.27 x (555.72/559.87) x (.0833)) = 2.0823 grams
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Not going to challenge your math, this dime is certified as missing 1 clad layer and it weighs 1.85g. So if your dime weighs significantly more than 1.5, you have a dime. Also notice your dime doesn't look like this real missing clad.
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    Last edited: Jul 19, 2018
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Just say no
     
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