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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jack D. Young, post: 13671063, member: 93371&quot;]Ever immediately get that feeling something is wrong from a single glance of an image? My spidey senses went off immediately when I saw this one, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it at 1st.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1530201[/ATTACH] </p><p>Images of this one on the left, a known genuine one on the right.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1530202[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1530203[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Just looking at the images the date seemed off, especially the ‘9’s and details just looked out of location on the reverse. Thinking it could be an electro I asked the seller for images of the edge and he stated he would get them for me.</p><p><br /></p><p>A day passed without them and I asked other early copper nuts thoughts; one of my friends and early LC expert also does overlays on occasion for me and worked on this one last night.</p><p><br /></p><p>He sent me the following images with the subject coin overlayed on a known genuine example (he has the coin software to do that very effectively):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1530204[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1530205[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>His comments:”Well, I widened the pictures slightly, did the overlays, don&#039;t like the coin, at least as far as being S-189.&nbsp; I have attached 4 pictures.&nbsp; Two are the slightly widened pictures from ebay, I also increased the contrast so that they looked better.&nbsp; The other 2 are overlays of those pictures and 20099, the CC1 S-189.&nbsp; No match between either obverse or reverse.&nbsp; For the obverse, I used as anchors the lower space in the B of LIBERTY and the loop of the last 9.&nbsp; The idea is to choose 2 points as far apart as possible, seeing how the things in between lay.&nbsp; The base of Y in 20099 is bright, due to illumination from the left, and it shows up above the base of Y from the eBay coin.&nbsp; Also, did you see what looks to be a die break down the side of the head of Liberty on the ebay coin?&nbsp; If a die break, I don&#039;t recognize it.&nbsp; The busts align pretty well, but shifted a little.&nbsp; The face profile of the 20099 is dark, due to the left illumination, a little to the right of the face of the ebay coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>For the reverse overlays, my anchor points are the center of the central 0 of the fraction denominator, and the upper curl of the second S in STATES.&nbsp; What a mess!&nbsp; Indicates that STATES ends at quite different places on the 2 coins, causes the whole upper side to be far off.&nbsp; Coin is not S-189.</p><p><br /></p><p>What is it made from?&nbsp; 1798 is only a guess, to get the type II hair, and the 3 digits 179.&nbsp; But the question is whether it is a genuine 1799--I think not.</p><p><br /></p><p>I notified the seller of our observations and without a word he ended the auction.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1530206[/ATTACH] </p><p>Shortly afterward he sent me the following message: “Thanks, Yeah, it was a real kick in the ___. Brought to my coin dealer and he was excited then kept looking. Looks like a really old counterfeit. 9&#039;s are too fat, R isn&#039;t over her hair tip and the all unforgiving thud not ring test.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Bidding was over $6100 with 5 days left…</p><p><br /></p><p>Best, Jack.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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